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[Abrahamics Only] Yeshua ﷺ, the servant of Allah

Raahim

مكتوب
This topic is opened for debate to anyone who has an opinion on it, however do try to avoid going off-topic & apply the rules of the DIR forums. Before I continue on with the topic you should know that my reference is of dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali & dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan's Interpretation of the Meanings of The Noble Quran which can be ordered without a charge. Due to the laws of copyright I will not post whole text, but highlight the most important lines.

YESHUA ﷺ AND THE DEVIL (IN BIBLE)

In the NT of the Bible, fourth chapter of the Gospel according to Matthew - the sixth & seventh verses clearly state that Yeshua ﷺ is obedient mortal & Allah is the Lord according to his saying: It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God. Also in this chapter we read that Devil carried Yeshua ﷺ and took him to various places, so how can Devil carry God? Allah is above such blasphemy! Then Devil asks of Yeshua ﷺ to prostrate before him and worship him on which Yeshua replied by saying that it was written in previous Books: Thou shalt worship the Lord, thy God; And Him only shalt thou serve.

CHILDREN OF ALLAH
Yeshua ﷺ never called himself Son of God, but he used to call himself the Son of Man (Mark 2:10). Although he heard himself being called by that name he did not object as assumed in the Bible & did not consider the title exclusively for him. According to the Biblican term in the OT & NT, every God-fearing righteous person is called Son of God, in Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peace-makers, for they shall be called the children of God. In Matthew 5:45 - That ye may be children of your Father which is in heaven...

YESHUA ﷺ THE WORSHIPPER
Matthew 14:23 - And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray.
If Yeshua ﷺ is God or even a part of God then why did he pray? Fact is that prayer is always from submitting, needy and dependent one for the Mercy of Almighty God as the Quran V.35:15 - O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah. But Allah is the Rich (Free of all needs), the Worthy of all praise and in V.19:93 - There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes to the most Gracious (Allah) as a slave


YESHUA ﷺ PROPHET OF ALLAH
Matthew 19:16 to 19:17 - And behold, one came and said unto him, 'Good master, what good things shall I do that I may have eternal life?' And he said unto him, 'Why callest thou me good? (There is) none good but one, (i.e.) God, but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. With these verses we note Yeshua's ﷺ acknowledgement of his submissiveness to Allah's will.

Matthew 21:45 to 21:46 - And when the chief priests and pharisees had heard his parable, they perceived that he spoke of them. But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude because they took him for a Prophet. Here it is proved that all those who believed in Yeshua ﷺ during his lifetime did not believe in him as being God or even the Son of God or even one in the doctrine of Trinity, but they believed in him as being a Prophet only. This is one of the strongest points of evidence against those who believe that Yeshua ﷺ was divine.

YESHUA ﷺ SERVANT OF ALLAH
Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven. From this you will note that fatherhood and sonship is meant to be the relationship between the God and His servants: it is meant in general sense and not only specifically for Yeshua ﷺ

Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heavens, but my Father only. Is define proof that the Final Hours are unknown to any but Allah, thus Yeshua's knowledge is imperfect like all other men; Allah is All-Knowing, Omniscient.


Matthew 26:39 - And Yeshua ﷺ went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt.' We note here that the person speaking is unaware of Allah's will and realizes the fact that he is a servant of Allah. Allah Alone can cause the change.

There are more in the book on this topic, I just pointed out some of the parts of Appendix II
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This topic is opened for debate to anyone who has an opinion on it, however do try to avoid going off-topic & apply the rules of the DIR forums. Before I continue on with the topic you should know that my reference is of dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali & dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan's Interpretation of the Meanings of The Noble Quran which can be ordered without a charge. Due to the laws of copyright I will not post whole text, but highlight the most important lines.

YESHUA ﷺ AND THE DEVIL (IN BIBLE)
In the NT of the Bible, fourth chapter of the Gospel according to Matthew - the sixth & seventh verses clearly state that Yeshua ﷺ is obedient mortal & Allah is the Lord according to his saying: It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God. Also in this chapter we read that Devil carried Yeshua ﷺ and took him to various places, so how can Devil carry God? Allah is above such blasphemy! Then Devil asks of Yeshua ﷺ to prostrate before him and worship him on which Yeshua replied by saying that it was written in previous Books: Thou shalt worship the Lord, thy God; And Him only shalt thou serve.


CHILDREN OF ALLAH
Yeshua ﷺ never called himself Son of God, but he used to call himself the Son of Man (Mark 2:10). Although he heard himself being called by that name he did not object as assumed in the Bible & did not consider the title exclusively for him. According to the Biblican term in the OT & NT, every God-fearing righteous person is called Son of God, in Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peace-makers, for they shall be called the children of God. In Matthew 5:45 - That ye may be children of your Father which is in heaven...

YESHUA ﷺ THE WORSHIPPER
Matthew 14:23 - And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray.
If Yeshua ﷺ is God or even a part of God then why did he pray? Fact is that prayer is always from submitting, needy and dependent one for the Mercy of Almighty God as the Quran V.35:15 - O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah. But Allah is the Rich (Free of all needs), the Worthy of all praise and in V.19:93 - There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes to the most Gracious (Allah) as a slave


YESHUA ﷺ PROPHET OF ALLAH
Matthew 19:16 to 19:17 - And behold, one came and said unto him, 'Good master, what good things shall I do that I may have eternal life?' And he said unto him, 'Why callest thou me good? (There is) none good but one, (i.e.) God, but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. With these verses we note Yeshua's ﷺ acknowledgement of his submissiveness to Allah's will.

Matthew 21:45 to 21:46 - And when the chief priests and pharisees had heard his parable, they perceived that he spoke of them. But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude because they took him for a Prophet. Here it is proved that all those who believed in Yeshua ﷺ during his lifetime did not believe in him as being God or even the Son of God or even one in the doctrine of Trinity, but they believed in him as being a Prophet only. This is one of the strongest points of evidence against those who believe that Yeshua ﷺ was divine.

YESHUA ﷺ SERVANT OF ALLAH
Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven. From this you will note that fatherhood and sonship is meant to be the relationship between the God and His servants: it is meant in general sense and not only specifically for Yeshua ﷺ

Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heavens, but my Father only. Is define proof that the Final Hours are unknown to any but Allah, thus Yeshua's knowledge is imperfect like all other men; Allah is All-Knowing, Omniscient.


Matthew 26:39 - And Yeshua ﷺ went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt.' We note here that the person speaking is unaware of Allah's will and realizes the fact that he is a servant of Allah. Allah Alone can cause the change.

There are more in the book on this topic, I just pointed out some of the parts of Appendix II
Yes .

He never claim that he is God , on contrary he worship Him, as we doing.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
This topic is opened for debate to anyone who has an opinion on it, however do try to avoid going off-topic & apply the rules of the DIR forums. Before I continue on with the topic you should know that my reference is of dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali & dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan's Interpretation of the Meanings of The Noble Quran which can be ordered without a charge. Due to the laws of copyright I will not post whole text, but highlight the most important lines.

YESHUA ﷺ AND THE DEVIL (IN BIBLE)
In the NT of the Bible, fourth chapter of the Gospel according to Matthew - the sixth & seventh verses clearly state that Yeshua ﷺ is obedient mortal & Allah is the Lord according to his saying: It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God. Also in this chapter we read that Devil carried Yeshua ﷺ and took him to various places, so how can Devil carry God? Allah is above such blasphemy! Then Devil asks of Yeshua ﷺ to prostrate before him and worship him on which Yeshua replied by saying that it was written in previous Books: Thou shalt worship the Lord, thy God; And Him only shalt thou serve.


CHILDREN OF ALLAH
Yeshua ﷺ never called himself Son of God, but he used to call himself the Son of Man (Mark 2:10). Although he heard himself being called by that name he did not object as assumed in the Bible & did not consider the title exclusively for him. According to the Biblican term in the OT & NT, every God-fearing righteous person is called Son of God, in Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peace-makers, for they shall be called the children of God. In Matthew 5:45 - That ye may be children of your Father which is in heaven...

YESHUA ﷺ THE WORSHIPPER
Matthew 14:23 - And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray.
If Yeshua ﷺ is God or even a part of God then why did he pray? Fact is that prayer is always from submitting, needy and dependent one for the Mercy of Almighty God as the Quran V.35:15 - O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah. But Allah is the Rich (Free of all needs), the Worthy of all praise and in V.19:93 - There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes to the most Gracious (Allah) as a slave


YESHUA ﷺ PROPHET OF ALLAH
Matthew 19:16 to 19:17 - And behold, one came and said unto him, 'Good master, what good things shall I do that I may have eternal life?' And he said unto him, 'Why callest thou me good? (There is) none good but one, (i.e.) God, but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. With these verses we note Yeshua's ﷺ acknowledgement of his submissiveness to Allah's will.

Matthew 21:45 to 21:46 - And when the chief priests and pharisees had heard his parable, they perceived that he spoke of them. But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude because they took him for a Prophet. Here it is proved that all those who believed in Yeshua ﷺ during his lifetime did not believe in him as being God or even the Son of God or even one in the doctrine of Trinity, but they believed in him as being a Prophet only. This is one of the strongest points of evidence against those who believe that Yeshua ﷺ was divine.

YESHUA ﷺ SERVANT OF ALLAH
Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven. From this you will note that fatherhood and sonship is meant to be the relationship between the God and His servants: it is meant in general sense and not only specifically for Yeshua ﷺ

Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heavens, but my Father only. Is define proof that the Final Hours are unknown to any but Allah, thus Yeshua's knowledge is imperfect like all other men; Allah is All-Knowing, Omniscient.


Matthew 26:39 - And Yeshua ﷺ went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt.' We note here that the person speaking is unaware of Allah's will and realizes the fact that he is a servant of Allah. Allah Alone can cause the change.

There are more in the book on this topic, I just pointed out some of the parts of Appendix II


You do not understand the power of God. You have been deceived.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
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tired old rerun ...​

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Raahim

مكتوب
You do not understand the power of God. You have been deceived.

No one understands the true power of God, because we can't understand in flesh His nature & power - we say He can do everything, but we don't know what everything is. You my friend have been deceived by false teachings.

Don't let anger or predetermined concepts cloud your judgement in this matter.

I'm not quite sure how you concluded that he is angered? He stated a really good point.


This goes in the same basket as this, but it's "stronger" because this is the case where pastor converted to Judaism. People's conversion don't prove much & there are more converts to Islam and Judaism than there is to Christianity.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
People's conversion don't prove much & there are more converts to Islam and Judaism than there is to Christianity.
Pretty much true. People make all manner of decisions based on all manner of reasoning, some valid and some less so.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
No one understands the true power of God, because we can't understand in flesh His nature & power - we say He can do everything, but we don't know what everything is. You my friend have been deceived by false teachings.



I'm not quite sure how you concluded that he is angered? He stated a really good point.



This goes in the same basket as this, but it's "stronger" because this is the case where pastor converted to Judaism. People's conversion don't prove much & there are more converts to Islam and Judaism than there is to Christianity.

Again, you have simply been deceived. As with most all cases of persons deceived you will come to realize the truth when it is revealed to you. Have a good day.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
the gospel of John is surrounded with mysticism .. it certainly doesn't read as the other 3..

Anyway, what is a soul? How long have we been around?

The Gospel of St. John is absolute and inerrant. Please ponder that before you start asking questions about things you do not understand.
 

Raahim

مكتوب
Again, you have simply been deceived. As with most all cases of persons deceived you will come to realize the truth when it is revealed to you. Have a good day.

The final truth has been revealed to the Prophet ﷺ, deceived is the one who puts faith in other than God and believes in that which God did not reveal.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
Everything in this video after 0:42 is nonsense - Yeshua ﷺ wasn't the founder of Christianity to start with. The Messiah (anointed king) was meant for none other than Jews and that's a fact Christians can't understand.

You poor, misguided soul. I will pray for you.
 
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