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Why exactly do Jehovah's Witnesses evangelize?

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This is the only response a JW can give when asked about the Kingdom. Because JW's are never taught what the Kingdom is, they're just taught to preach about it. JW's don't have a clue what the Kingdom is.
I don't think this is true.
The JW kingdom is a system with God as Head, Jesus an appointee as the leader, born again 144,000 co-rulers, angels and workers. It is an organization which will bring back humankind to God.

And I think I might want to know why you @djhwoodwerks are ignoring me.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
No one I know has anything to fear from the elders or the GB. It is Jesus who will judge us if we fail to live up to his teachings.

Really? Stop doing field service, stop going to meetings, tell the elders the WT/GB got something wrong and you can prove it. Who will be your judge and jury? Hint: it won't be Jesus!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Really? Stop doing field service, stop going to meetings, tell the elders the WT/GB got something wrong and you can prove it. Who will be your judge and jury? Hint: it won't be Jesus!
The elders in my congregation have judged me recalcitrant as I didn't even get an invite to the Memorial this year. :(
I have not heard the news yet if I am disfellowshipped. Although, one former associate was friendly toward me but the next time I saw her she ignored me.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Here we are djh.....look at how "cultish" we are......

http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODMusicVideos/pub-jwbon_201512_1_VIDEO

....look at how stressed we all are, miserable and under great pressure from the GB not to put a foot wrong......your comments are a absolute joke.

You think we paid thousands of actors to fake that? You have been listening to the wrong people. (2 Tim 4:3, 4) But that is your privilege.

You believe that video proves something? Hmmm, what do the JW's think about Mormons? They have a video like yours.

 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Again, that is your choice...Jesus appointed a "faithful slave" to "feed" his household. We all have to identify that slave and take the food he offers....(Matt 24:45)
"Many" think that they are members of that household, but they are in for a rude shock. (Matt 7:21-23)

JW's choose the men that claim what they teach might not be right. God "AND" Jesus appointed these men. God "AND" Jesus completely trust these men.

I see it this way, if a person "claims" to be chosen by God "AND" Jesus, if a person "claims" to be completely trusted by God "AND" Jesus, if a person "claims" to be Spirit guided, how can anything they teach be false? It's not possible, unless they are "running ahead" of God, which the GB "claims" they don't do.

Do you actually believe Jesus would let the slave "He" appointed teach falsely for hundreds of years? What is the "proper time" for the truth?
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
You think you can't be deceived just as easily? Nothing is as it appears.

And this "ONLY" applies to people who are not JW's? JW's can't and aren't being deceived, right? Do you think you can't be deceived just as easily? "NOTHING" is as it appears!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
And this "ONLY" applies to people who are not JW's? JW's can't and aren't being deceived, right? Do you think you can't be deceived just as easily? "NOTHING" is as it appears!
It is a very sad thing if the JWs are right that they know the Bible better than anyone else.
1 Corinthians 10:12
Luke 8:18
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
If you are found in Babylon the great when the judgment comes, you will go down with that sinking ship. (Rev 18:4, 5)

If someone is "alive" when judgment day arrives and is a sinner, that person goes down with the ship. But all who "die" in their sins "before" judgment day arrives, gets a second chance?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It is a very sad thing that the JW's "DO" think they know the Bible better than anyone else!
Yes, and 1 Corinthians 10:12 proves they don't. If they could take it to heart that the writer wrote "thinks" she is standing then she couldn't say they are the only ones standing.
Luke 18:26-27
The JWs teach that their accurate knowledge is what can save a person. The Bible says GOD can save a person. No mention of a governing body.
Another very strange thing they teach is that the Watchtower is "food at the proper time" but in real life, everyone does not eat the same food at the same time.
Also, their spiritual food changes with time.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
JW's are required by their church to be very studious. What they study, and when, is laid down in detail by their leaders They all study the same tracts at the same time.
They must also spend a set amount of time evangelising.
They are far more regimented in what they can, can not and must do, than most other Christian Denominations.
To disobey is to disobey God, and their very soul is at risk.
They do what they do because they have no choice.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I can prove scripturally that the JW members of the governing body are not of the 144,000.
The 144,000 are a heavenly class of people. But the governing body members are on the Earth. They have not endured until their end so it is impossible to say if they are saved. Matthew 24:13 There are no 144,000 on Earth and I think it is safe to say there never will be. They are 144,000 whether literal or not, it doesn't matter, in Heaven. If some are in Heaven and some are on Earth they wouldn't be 144,000. They would be divided.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Interesting what things you highlighted there Deeje. I was pointing out how the GB claims they are Christs "substitutes". You avoided that!

2Co 5:20-21 (ESVST) 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.


Ambassador - (STRONG) g4243. πρεσβεύω presbeuō; from the base of 4245; to be a senior, i. e. (by implication) act as a representative (figuratively, preacher):— be an ambassador.


*** w98 12/15 p. 18 par. 10 This Is the Day of Salvation! ***
10 Jehovah has committed the ministry of reconciliation to the anointed, so Paul could say: “We are therefore ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making entreaty through us. As substitutes for Christ we beg: ‘Become reconciled to God.’” (2 Corinthians 5:20) In ancient times, ambassadors were dispatched mainly during periods of hostility to see if warfare could be averted. (Luke 14:31, 32) Since the sinful world of mankind is alienated from God, he has sent his anointed ambassadors forth to inform people of his terms for reconciliation. As substitutes for Christ, anointed ones beg: “Become reconciled to God.” This entreaty is a merciful urging to seek peace with God and accept the salvation he makes possible through Christ.


I totally agree that we are "ambassadors" of Christ, are acting in "behalf" of Christ. The GB is teaching that they are "substitutes" for Christ, not "representatives" of Christ. There is a difference. And if you read 2Cor 5:20, 21 you'll not find the word "anointed" anywhere, why do you add a word that is not there?


The last sentence in that paragraph says, "As substitutes for Christ, anointed ones beg: “Become reconciled to God.” This entreaty is a merciful urging to seek peace with God and accept the salvation he makes possible through Christ." Isn't this what every JW does, not just the anointed?

1 Timothy 6:4, "debates about words". Lol. How do you feel about Christendom's involvement in the world's wars? How are they 'reconciling people to God'? Lol.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
1 Timothy 6:4, "debates about words". Lol. How do you feel about Christendom's involvement in the world's wars? How are they 'reconciling people to God'? Lol.
How do you feel about the Axis Powers ruling the world had the allies not fought together against them?
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
This is the only response a JW can give when asked about the Kingdom. Because JW's are never taught what the Kingdom is, they're just taught to preach about it. JW's don't have a clue what the Kingdom is.

So preposterous! And you are studying the Bible with a Witness? I wish I knew who he was.... I'd show him these posts, and ask him to stop wasting his time.

So, you don't want to answer her question, but trying to goad her to answer yours?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Although. I'm sure many JW's go door to door because they are sincere in believing they are sharing good news, I think the governing board is simply using their volunteer work force. (under fear of Jehovah and eternal life) to make money for the Watchtower organization. All those publications must be paid for by someone. It is the volunteer members who produce them and usually the members who buy them with their own money to give away. to householders at the door. So it is the governing body who gets all the free labor and the monetary profit.

"According to the Watchtower Society's own figures, the peak publishers (sales people)
in the United States alone for the 2005 service (sales) year were up to 1,035,802. With
this in mind, the money collected on a daily basis is quite sizeable. On any given
Saturday, it is safe to say that at least 20% of Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States
alone are out placing literature and soliciting funds for the Watchtower, a rough
estimate of 200,000 or more publishers peddling Watchtower goods. Assuming just
one dollar was collected by each publisher, the conservative figure would roughly be
$200,000.00 in just one day in the United States alone. Multiply that underestimated
figure by all the Saturday's in one year and the outcome is indeed sizeable. Of utmost
importance is the fact that the money collected from their door to door ministry is just a
small portion of the money sent to the Watchtower Society."
http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/6worldwidework.html
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Although. I'm sure many JW's go door to door because they are sincere in believing they are sharing good news, I think the governing board is simply using their volunteer work force. (under fear of Jehovah and eternal life) to make money for the Watchtower organization. All those publications must be paid for by someone. It is the volunteer members who produce them and usually the members who buy them with their own money to give away. to householders at the door. So it is the governing body who gets all the free labor and the monetary profit.

"According to the Watchtower Society's own figures, the peak publishers (sales people)
in the United States alone for the 2005 service (sales) year were up to 1,035,802. With
this in mind, the money collected on a daily basis is quite sizeable. On any given
Saturday, it is safe to say that at least 20% of Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States
alone are out placing literature and soliciting funds for the Watchtower, a rough
estimate of 200,000 or more publishers peddling Watchtower goods. Assuming just
one dollar was collected by each publisher, the conservative figure would roughly be
$200,000.00 in just one day in the United States alone. Multiply that underestimated
figure by all the Saturday's in one year and the outcome is indeed sizeable. Of utmost
importance is the fact that the money collected from their door to door ministry is just a
small portion of the money sent to the Watchtower Society."
http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/6worldwidework.html

It just couldn't be done out of love? Like the Apostles did? If money was indeed the motivator, there would be collection plates passed around. And God's Spirit wouldn't be blessing us with our incredible worldwide brotherhood, our loving unity, which can only result from His spirit. -- Galatians 5:22-23
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It just couldn't be done out of love? Like the Apostles did? If money was indeed the motivator, there would be collection plates passed around. And God's Spirit wouldn't be blessing us with our incredible worldwide brotherhood, our loving unity, which can only result from His spirit. -- Galatians 5:22-23
Did you see the Latter Day Saints video? They also have an incredible worldwide brotherhood and loving unity. So, how? God's spirit?
@Hockeycowboy do you understand the "nothing but God's blessing" reason can't work because others experience the same thing but why, according to you, does Jehovah bless what you call, "false religion"? What about the U. S. Marines? Their bond of devotion is very strong too.
 
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