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John the Baptist was the groom at the wedding in Cana

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
No, "sanib" and "lakip" are different things. You must understand that there is the physical body, spirit, and soul. The spirit has life. So in "sanib", the spirit of the person remains in the body. In "lakip", the spirit leaves the body; and this is what happens to Ka Apaz.

Dude - channeling - is channeling.

And it is not real. It is someone - claiming - a spirit is using them.

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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Then tell me who the disciple that Jesus loved (John 19:26).

I don't know what your problem is? You've obviously tried this on other sites, and gotten the same logical responses, - so why do you keep trying?

We can only speculate on whom the disciple Jesus loved is, - as the Bible does not tell us.

And supposed spirits telling someone it is John the Baptist, is obviously not fact, nor reliable.

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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
According to the spirit of Ama, John the Baptist was the disciple that Jesus loved. He was also John the Evangelist. And the groom at the wedding in Cana in Galilee.

The disciple that Jesus loved was not the Apostle John, who was the brother of James, and sons of Zebedee.

Jesus took the apostles Peter, James, and John on a high mountain. They were present in the transfiguration: Matthew 17:1-13, Mark 9:2-13, and Luke 9:28-36.

Matthew 17:1 said: "Peter, James, and John his brother".
Mark 9:2 said: "Peter, and James, and John".
Luke 9:28 said: "Peter and John and James".
So it was the brothers James and John who were with Peter and Jesus at the transfiguration.

In 2 Peters 1:16-18, it states:
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

If the apostle John, the brother of James, was the evangelist, he would have written this down in his Gospel. But it was not because the apostle John was not John the Evangelist and the disciple that Jesus loved.

AGAIN - John the Baptist was NOT a disciple.

We are told that James and John the sons of Zebedee were disciples of John the Baptist - that chose to become disciples of Jesus.

It does NOT say John the Baptist became a disciple.

And there are texts mentioning John the Baptist in other areas, when Jesus and his disciples are out doing their thing.

They are NOT the same person.

The Gospel of John mentions John the Baptist - and does NOT use first person.

In other words - it does NOT say "I did this."

Scholarly sources consider John to have been written in three stages - not by one person.
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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
You don't know? Why? If it is just human beings that you will rely upon, you may end us in pure speculation. How about if it is a spirit who will tell you these? A spirit lives forever, especially that of Jesus.

Why did you not mention about Mary Magdalene in Matthew 27:56 and Mark 15:40? Luke 23:49 did not state the names of the women that followed Him from Galilee.

LOL! You are telling me that relying on what the texts and scholars actually say, and my own study, - is less reliable then supposed "CHANNELED" information?
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And your question makes no sense. Why would I have to mention all verses with Mary M. there, - when one will do?

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