Anyway.... to summarize...
We know that certain things in our immediate environment cannot happen without conscious decision.
From a scientific perspective, we do not understand (or realize we do) the environment which existed before the initiation of the universe well enough to determine what would require conscious decision.
"The existence of the universe required prior conscious decision." may be a true statement -even if we do not yet have scientific evidence, or are not seeing available evidence correctly.
"The existence of evolution on earth required prior conscious decision." would then also be true -even if the conscious decision is far removed.
If we say a bag full of watch parts would never become a watch without the intent to assemble them as a watch, and attempt to apply the same principle to the existence of the universe or evolution (once a watch is assembled, conscious decision is not necessary for it to work), we would need to understand that which preceded the universe to about the same degree as we understand a bag full of watch parts.
...and to continue
(From an evolutionary standpoint... why would it be impossible for "God" , the creator, to necessarily have self-evolved/self-created before all else?
Using God and evolution together likely makes most cringe a bit, but evolution and design are both parts of the same whole.
Evolution exists and design/creativity exist. Might we not find that creativity necessarily evolved before the extremely complex big bang was executed?
Might we not find that it was necessarily packaged and set in motion by an intelligence?
When I say that God might have evolved, I do not mean that God was perhaps the product of the evolution based on the elements.
I mean that God is everything -IS evolution, IS design, IS creativity, IS both consciousness and that of which to be conscious -that everything was once less complex and became more complex by decision -but also that decision began simply and became more complex.
I mean that God is the everything that is able to say "I AM" -the beginning of the mutual relationship of design and evolution.
To be able to say "I AM" at the most simple level requires a certain arrangement -and perhaps that most simple level was the very first initial interaction, which is the basis of action and awareness.
If you think about it, "I AM" may always be true -but "I AM" means something different as the one becomes a different whole.
God says "I AM THAT I AM" -but God also says "NOW I WILL EXALT MYSELF" -and once that is accomplished, God could say "NOW I HAVE EXALTED MYSELF".
In other words.... "I AM" was once "I AM NOT YET EXALTED" and will become "I AM EXALTED" -but also, "I AM" is true even if reduced to the most simple interaction, as consciousness is a product of interaction.
Would it truly be blasphemous to consider that God might once have been the most simple interaction possible?
That might seem to go against the idea of God being eternal, but God himself said "I am the beginnig and the end" -and time is also a product of arrangement. God would still have always existed.
Could it be possible that a certain complexity of interaction -a certain level of self-awareness of the everything -and the ability of the everything to consciously decide its own future state - necessarily preceded the big bang?)
