psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yes but how do you feel about that, forget about you teacher, its you that I am more interested in.
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Is the universe conscious of itself...
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I find that embracing uncertainty is uncomfortable but more revealing, there is an openness about it. Like admitting you really haven't got a clue, and actually that's OK, not clutching at metaphysical straws for comfort. Having working assumptions, but seeing them as possibilities, not clinging to them as beliefs.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
It is rather like one person acting through many -such as in a corporation -government -military, etc....
One mind can exert its will through many -getting everyone "on board" to complete the task -even when the task is getting everyone "on board" -folks don't even need to know the end result before it happens.
Folks can even think they are acting against the one mind and do its will if the one mind is all tricky like that.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
I don't understand your point, Etri
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Just that a will can act through or by many things and people to achieve an intended result.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
Why is that important to note.
Is there a final product? Or are we active participants in the process?
gnostic
The Lost One
Except that this "will" you are talking about, come from people, not from the organisations, not from the "conscious" universe or not from any god.
The later two (universe and god) are based on people projecting their superstitions of the will and consciousness to the universe (that do exist, but some people tends to anthropomorphize the universe) and to a god (that don't exist except in people's mind).
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
From your perspective.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Something has acted through all of us. It is important to note because it was intended.
If intended, then someone has acted through all of us -but intended that we may note it -and, therefore, that we may act of ourselves.
Psalms 104:30 says what has acted through all of us.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Amo 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Amo 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?
God has done everything -yet God has not done everything.
God is responsible for everything -but we are responsible.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yes. Now you must ask why.
outhouse
Atheistically
That is nothing you can substantiate. The universe is NOT conscious of itself
outhouse
Atheistically
Only if we pervert language.
The universe is not alive and has no brain and therefor, it is not conscious.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
That is nothing that you can substantiate.
outhouse
Atheistically
The burden is on you to show that the universe is conscious.
If you make claim bigfoot is purple, I don't have to prove they don't exist, it s on you to do such.
Factually the universe does not have a brain and is not a mammal.
AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
To be fair, can't we say that we humans are a part of the universe being conscious of it self? As well as saying that some part of it (us) is mammalian?
gnostic
The Lost One
And from your perspective, you would rather that I forgo reasoning and evidences, in favour of your superstitious belief or fantasy that defy all sense of reality?
Sure, I could do that!
