I would not worry that I do not believe in an organization. I would worry that believing in an organization is a sin of idolatry and sin will come to its end. That is a great big end. I worry for the people for whom the end will come as a surprise.
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Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yet they believe in the lord. So how can they not be saved? Should we be so quick to judge? One might say there is only ONE truth. but if that is so, who is saved?
What does it mean, "they believe in the Lord"?
Luke 18:25-27
Luke 14:26
Matthew 10:37
John 12:25
Matthew 6:24
1 Kings 18;21
2 Kings 17:41
Luke 16:11
Romans 6:20
Galatians 1:10
James 4:4
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James 2:19
According to the story Adam believed. How can he not be saved?
And I thought you might answer me that no one can know for sure if Adam and Eve can be saved.
Maybe you should know that the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Adam and Eve can never be saved. [and it's not because they were not real people, there were for sure, according to them]. The reason is that they knew Jehovah but chose to disobey. What do you think of those cookies?
Maybe you should know that the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Adam and Eve can never be saved. [and it's not because they were not real people, there were for sure, according to them]. The reason is that they knew Jehovah but chose to disobey. What do you think of those cookies?
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Interesting quotes. But it does also say that if you call on the name of the lord you will be saved
Do they not call on him, believe in him? If so, how can they not be saved. I think the more pertinent question is, why are there so many differnent points of view about the same man who appears to promise to save all even though they don't believe the same thing.... for he is the "saviour of the world" (Jh4?)
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I think all that are not saved are reborn. God is the saviour of ALL mankind (timothy) so they must be saved at some point or else sacred scripture is not sacred scripture but a mere book.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I also see all male as Adam and all female as Eve, and that is, ALL life.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
It is interesting that Ananias did not know the right baptism, (only knowing the baptism of John) and yet he was accepted by the brothers. Thus it appears he was saved yet without knowing the full truth. (Acts)
What is in a name? If you do not know then you are not calling on it.
All does not mean every and never will.
God does not save all life. Or where is the dinosaur?
To know the full truth is to be God.
Let's talk about what a name means. If I had a name people would listen to me. I do not have a name. It is human nature to pay attention to people with a name. Do you understand?
Good or bad name and people will pay attention. No name and people will ignore that person. That is true.
http://biblehub.com/greek/3686.htm
http://biblehub.com/greek/1097.htm
base, infamous, renown
A primitive word (perhaps rather from suwm through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare shamayim); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character -- + base, (in-)fame(-ous), named(-d), renown, report.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8034.htm
OH! Am I hearing a VOICE? I might remember what I heard or not......time will tell. It was good, whatever it was. LOL
Good or bad name and people will pay attention. No name and people will ignore that person. That is true.
http://biblehub.com/greek/3686.htm
http://biblehub.com/greek/1097.htm
base, infamous, renown
A primitive word (perhaps rather from suwm through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare shamayim); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character -- + base, (in-)fame(-ous), named(-d), renown, report.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8034.htm
OH! Am I hearing a VOICE? I might remember what I heard or not......time will tell. It was good, whatever it was. LOL
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I think the thought is gone but the voice and I agree that I have no name so it doesn't really matter. Does it?
Let's talk about "to call upon".
http://biblehub.com/greek/1941.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7121.htm
Let's talk about "to call upon".
http://biblehub.com/greek/1941.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7121.htm
My conclusion: To call upon the name of Jehovah means to recognize the authority of YHVH for greatness. And Jesus says it is for greatness in a good way and not a bad way. Mark 10:18 Luke 18:19
Also the prophets.
1 Chronicles 16:34 1 Chronicles 16:41 2 Chronicles 5:13 2 Chronicles 7:3 2 Chronicles 20:21 Ezra 3:11 Psalms 100:5 Psalms 138:8 Psalms 145:9 Jeremiah 33:11
Also the prophets.
1 Chronicles 16:34 1 Chronicles 16:41 2 Chronicles 5:13 2 Chronicles 7:3 2 Chronicles 20:21 Ezra 3:11 Psalms 100:5 Psalms 138:8 Psalms 145:9 Jeremiah 33:11
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Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
The text does say though that if you believe in the son you will be saved. Why should one looking at that verse be saved and another looking at the same verse not be. I do not think that God is dishonest.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
All is every.
God is always honest to the highest degree imho.