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Spirits vs Gods

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I would describe 'being' as an intelligent, conscious, self-aware entity.

Hmm. Im a atheist to beings/entities (not to spirits); so, this may take a little bit to understand.

When I think of entity, I think either an anamorphic entity: The entity would be a Person who "has" intelligence rather than be made up of intelligence, etc. Once that Person becomes made up of abstract ideas such as love, it is not a being anymore but a personified force.

If this isnt true, Im at a lost at how an entity is different in composition ("physical" as a spirit.)
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
A personality like person?

Is god an entity? Another type of spirit? What is he composed of, I guess, that would make god exist beyond a description?
composition?....we shall see.
we are made of the same stuff....held in flesh for now...

I suspect the outstanding and obvious.....the effect of will....
in the Presence.

would the will of a god be resistible?
or will your thoughts and dreams be invaded?

it is written....
all things done in secret shall be made known
 
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HekaMa'atRa

Member
Hmm. Im a atheist to beings/entities (not to spirits); so, this may take a little bit to understand.

When I think of entity, I think either an anamorphic entity: The entity would be a Person who "has" intelligence rather than be made up of intelligence, etc. Once that Person becomes made up of abstract ideas such as love, it is not a being anymore but a personified force.

If this isnt true, Im at a lost at how an entity is different in composition ("physical" as a spirit.)

So you're saying you believe in spirits but not God/s - that correct?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Are gods beings? If so, that would make more sense of the being/personlike to be "older". If they arent diefied spirits, what are they?

Gods are real beings to most Heathens.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Is god an entity? A "someone" that exist beyond the bible's definition of him?

Is a spirit a person? Someone or thing of human attributes like that of Saddom and Gommorah, or?
Yes, I believe the Bible teaches that God is a spirit person. (John 4:24, Hebrews 9:24) The Bible reveals God has feelings and can feel hurt by humans who rebel against him. (Genesis 6:6) He also feels joy when we act wisely and finds pleasure in those who serve him faithfully. (Proverbs 27:11, Psalm 149:4) The true God's primary attribute is love.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Is Brahman described as a being or is it the same as the "breathe" of life? Or energy behind life?
Brahman has best been described as pure sat-cit-ananda (being-awareness-bliss). There is only One existence so I'm not sure if it makes sense to call the One existing consciousness a being. Our minds always reel at this point and like a Buddhist I think it is worthwhile to ponder to only a limited extent and to focus on our lives of returning to realizing we are the One.

But yes, Brahman is the life force behind everything.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I would describe 'being' as an intelligent, conscious, self-aware entity.

Entity like a force of intelligence, consciouness, and self-wareness (something you feel inside, type of thing) or an actual force (cant think of another image other than star wars and laser beams) that exists a part from humans?

Sorry for the reference. An actual and literal floating intelligence, consciouness, and self-wareness a part from human beings totally?

If so, how does that look? Is it invisible?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Yes, I believe the Bible teaches that God is a spirit person. (John 4:24, Hebrews 9:24) The Bible reveals God has feelings and can feel hurt by humans who rebel against him. (Genesis 6:6) He also feels joy when we act wisely and finds pleasure in those who serve him faithfully. (Proverbs 27:11, Psalm 149:4) The true God's primary attribute is love.

The only way, sorry to compare, I can see God being physical is through the Eucharist. A part from the Eucharist, I would imagine how the Bible describes God as a walking figure as you and me. Reminds me of the song, "what if God were one of us?" As a spirit, I'd see as someone living on earth beyond one's passing. In a God definition, I can't compare him to a spirit because he cannot be seen with the naked eye. If God is a feeling and experience, that I understand. As a being walking around like one of us (?), it sounds surreal both from the bible and believers.
 

Janardena

Member
Are spirits and gods to you interchangable in meaning?

Gods could mean anamorphic deities or just entities. Neither needs to be sources of worship.

Spirits could mean the actual force or breathe of life (etc) rather than actual individuals living on earth after death.

gods are defined as material beings who have specific, universal designation. Although they are materially greater than us (but inferior to God), and live much longer (as to perceive them as eternal), they eventually die and the spirit soul leaves the body.

My understanding is that, every living thing, being, is essentially spirit. Spirit nature can be understood to be the exact opposite of material nature. Our physical bodies are material by nature, and is forced to act under the laws of nature.

God is defined (in some scripture) as pure, unadulterated, consciousness (His nature being pure spirit), infinite by our understanding.

We are are described as finite, separated parts and particles of God (fallen through the desire to enjoy like God), placed in this material atmosphere in order to act out our fantasies.
Due to the laws of material nature, our actions, reap reaction, which we are bound to have to act out.
These cause more wrong actions, meaning we become more entangled in the whole cycle of birth and death.

This is my understanding (in a little nutshell).
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
gods are defined as material beings who have specific, universal designation. Although they are materially greater than us (but inferior to God), and live much longer (as to perceive them as eternal), they eventually die and the spirit soul leaves the body.

My understanding is that, every living thing, being, is essentially spirit. Spirit nature can be understood to be the exact opposite of material nature. Our physical bodies are material by nature, and is forced to act under the laws of nature.

God is defined (in some scripture) as pure, unadulterated, consciousness (His nature being pure spirit), infinite by our understanding.

We are are described as finite, separated parts and particles of God (fallen through the desire to enjoy like God), placed in this material atmosphere in order to act out our fantasies.
Due to the laws of material nature, our actions, reap reaction, which we are bound to have to act out.
These cause more wrong actions, meaning we become more entangled in the whole cycle of birth and death.

This is my understanding (in a little nutshell).


Thank you. Kinda like God is more specifically a spirit without definition of any human attributes (for example, being human before his passing). He just exists. I dont understand the consciousness part, if that's not the case. Interesting, nonetheless.
 

Aset's Flames

Viperine Asetian
Is this being anamorphic ("physically" existing a part frok definition?" What is the definition of being?

I know I have two def. of spirit: the breathe of life which is separate than spirit as a person living beyons death.

As energy, would that be the "breathe" of life or is it defined differently?

Well one of the fails of the English language is that the term spirit is to broad so I well use a little Egyptian here.

I beilive the universe is made of three primordial complements:

Matter, Energy, and Ka.

Bodies are made of Matter and Energy.

Spirits are made of Energy and Ka, including souls.

The goddess transdences all three.

Ka is life force or vital energy. And in English I often use the word Spirit in its place however this can be confusing.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Are they with vehicles/bodies above the physical plane level? Like angels/gods/etc. of other traditions?

Not the way I conceive of them. For example, Thor is not the god of thunder, he is thunder; Tyr is not the god of law, justice and honor, he is law, justice and honor. These are real beings, far above us, not an archetype or personification, though we give them names and attributes: Bhagavad Gita 12.5
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Hmmm......Can Thor be called a conscious being? Does thunder care about humans?

Yes, there are things we may not understand but feel and believe. He's not only thunder, he's the rain that makes things grow.
 
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