Logic & Bible

Logic is anything that makes sense. We can tell truth from false using (logic) I will use it on the Bible, on the subject of the crucifixion (which is The core belief of Christianity today) I will start with Pilate the governor.


Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”

You have said so, Jesus replied.

When he was accused by the chief priests and the elders, he gave no answer.

Then Pilate asked him, “Don’t you hear the testimony they are bringing against you?”

But Jesus made no reply, not even to a single charge—to the great amazement of the governor.


Now it was the governor’s custom at the festival to release a prisoner chosen by the crowd. At that time they had a well-known prisoner whose name was Jesus Barabbas.

So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?”

For he knew it was out of self-interest that they had handed Jesus over to him.

While Pilate was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.”

But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.

“Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.

“Barabbas,” they answered.

“What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.

They all answered, Crucify him!

“Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!.

All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.


My comment

Logic say's: When Jesus came to the Jews they were slaves under the Romans, been slapped and kicked around. They at first thought Jesus was like Moses, And that he too will deliver them from slavery. But they did not understand Jesus. They were slaves under the Romans whip, So Pilate did not fear an uproar, Pilate had no fear from the Jews, but he had fear over the sake of his family and wife which he loved and respected. She who later was called saint Claudia or saint Procula. God showed her that dream to save Jesus, otherwise what's the point of her seen that dream?
After reading her letter he knew that if anything bad happen to Jesus, He and his wife will be damned. So, logic say's that he would never risk his life and his family for the sake of some slaves who are shouting, kill an innocent man for nothing and free the guilty one (Jesus of Barabbas). Barabbas was a rebel against Rome. He killed roman officers and soldiers, so he was condemned to death for insurrection against the Roman Empire; he was a terrorist to Rome Even if Pilate wanted, he could not let him go. As for the festival custom if there was ever one, It was his own custom, not Rome's. Pilate did not have the authority to release Barabbas, nor did the emperor of Rome. Could Obama release Ben laden if the Muslims asked him to?

Plus, how could the Jews say “His blood is on us and on our children!” why did they deliver him to the Romans then?!! They could have killed him themselves. But they were afraid of having his blood on them. How can a crowd of people answer all the same answer? They all together said “His blood is on us and on our children!” This is a clear fabrication from the anonymous writers of the Bible.

If the Jews did force Pilate to crucify Jesus Christ, he wouldn't have scourged him so brutally knowing his innocent, he would have crucified him with dignity and respect.

What Pilate really did, He crucified Jesus of Barabbas.
Barabbas looked a lot like Jesus, and with the beating he took, his face was bruised and covered with blood, and so the crowd mistook him for Jesus Christ. The roman soldiers slapped him and mocked him and crowned him with thorns and called him the king of the Jews, They were very angry at him for he had killed Roman soldiers.

Pilate took Jesus Christ into one of his gardens and disguised him as a gardener.

Al Quran an Nisa 157
وقولهم إنا قتلنا المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول الله وما قتلوه وما صلبوه ولكن شبه لهم وإن الذين اختلفوا فيه لفي شكّ منه ما لهم به من علم إلا اتباع الظن وما قتلوه يقينا

the meaning of the holy verse in English.

And for their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but it seemed to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

( Barabbas was not a thief nor were the men with him, they were rebellions against the occupation of Rome, the Romans were pagans, an enemy of god and the Jews, So Barabbas was a hero, a martyr and a sacrifice for Jesus, if Barabbas succeeded in his rebellion, he would have become king of the Jews )

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I continue......

Let's see what the Bible say's about the apostles of Jesus, and what they learned from Jesus.
Jesus lived on earth for thirty three years before he was lifted by god, he preached the word of God for three years, this is according to the Bible.


1“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God ; believe also in me. 2My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going.”
5Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.7If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”


My comment

Jesus was going away, it's over and Thomas still dose not know where Jesus is going.
From Jesus words, you can tell that he is still trying to convince them of his message, words like (not let your hearts be troubled) and (believe also in me) (at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves)


8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?10Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.



My comment

Philip too, dose not know and Jesus tells him, After all this and you still don't know. He is asking to see God to believe, no Jew asks to see god, he was not a gentile.
Judas sold him and Peter denied him three times.
This is according to this Bible, they learned nothing and were full of doubts, So logically they were not fit to teach.

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As for Paul, he was not an apostle at all that is, one of the Twelve Apostles nor was he authorized by them to offer Christianity to Greeks and Galatians on such terms.



He saw a vision, he said . A vision of Jesus. How come they never asked him for a miracle Or any proof that would support his claim? He claimed that he received a revelation from the other world, something that can happen only to prophets, So was he a prophet?! Did he claim to be one? The truth is that he was an enemy of Jesus which he never saw, he was a bounty hunter, he used to hunt Christians for money, and sell them as slaves. Hunting the Christians did no good just More followers to Christ, Paul was a Pharisees (an old Jew political party ) The same party which pursued Jesus before, It seems that there the one behind Paul and not Jesus, a great enemy of the Church converts to Christianity and by whom? by Jesus in a vision. Why would Jesus chose him? why did he not chose from his 12 apostles?!! he trusted none of them, no he trusted more in his sworn enemy Paul, none sense.



Matthew 23 Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:

2 The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. 3 So obey everything they teach you, but don’t do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else.



The Sadducees and Pharisees hated Jesus,and wanted to kill him and destroy what he built, he was exposing them.



((6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! 10 Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ))



My comment

Yea, trust in Paul ,and not an angel from heaven. Different Gospel!!! I wonder now what was the story of the other Gospel his talking about, you can't say his right, because he says so. It looks like the other bible is more powerful than the bible he was teaching, so powerful that the people are so quickly deserting his bible. And his the one who throw you into confusion and perverted the gospel of Christ.



Paul said

15We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live to God. 20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.



Jesus said

17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.


((1Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. 2I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. But I did this privately to those who seemed to be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain. 3Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. 4This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5 We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might remain with you. 6As for those who seemed to be important—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not judge by external appearance—those men added nothing to my message. 7On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as Peter had been to the Jews. 8For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9James, Peter and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews. 10All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do))

My comment

Freedom in Christ!! What freedom? To say about God and holy men and prophets lies? He says not to become slaves to the laws of God, but slaves to his desires. he calls twisting the truth freedom. If you believe in Paul, you must disbelieve in the teachings of the apostles of Jesus, according to him, they were wrong, hypocrites and went a stray.



2Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3I’ll say it again. If you are trying to find favor with God by being circumcised, you must obey every regulation in the whole law of Moses. 4For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.


My comment

His contradicting this verse

Gen 17:9-14 And God said to Abraham: "As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. "This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised; "and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you. "He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with money from any stranger who is not your descendant. "He who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money must be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. "And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant."



Paul him self took Timothy and circumcised him (Acts 16:3).

Muslims and Jews circumcise to this day.

7And because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to buffet me—to keep me from exalting myself! 8Concerning this I entreated the Lord three times that it might depart from me.



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