Yes, insult. OK. Too bad. I wonder who made the pun?
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Is It Possible For The Bible And Jesus To Disagree?
- Thread starter savagewind
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Right! No clear end.
Desert Snake
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Ok, and you think that verse is wrong....?
The Bible says, "love is not provoked". I think that some publishers realizeOkay, now I am tired, and I still see nothing that is necessary to understand different. I leave you with a picture of me
that indeed sometimes love IS provoked so they added the word "easily". Some
Bible read, "love is not easily provoked". That is definitely true. God does
not have angry tantrums. True.
But I think the important thing is to have in mind what God's Word really says.
Isn't that important?
The Buddhists practice tranquility and a person reading that love is not
provoked and wanting to be love will practice it like the Buddha. That is not a
bad thing. Tranquility is a good thing. BUT if you read that love is not
provoked and practice it you might never realize that what God says is that love
does not provoke. To learn that love does not provoke is for the welfare of
others. Is it not?
Love is not easily provoked is for the welfare of the one learning
it. Not really much good for anyone else.
The JWs go door to door provoking many people every day. If God really says
that love does not provoke then by their doing that they prove they are not
love. Love is better than truth. Isn't it?
Yes. When it was written it was right imho. I think it was changed. On purpose or by accident, I do not know. Does it matter?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
If something is "not yet present", it could certainly still be an illusion. So, shouldn't we be skeptical of such things?
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
where does it say that?
old testament says he loses his temper
see above
yes, peace is good
Are you saying that you are not provoked by love? I think that is wrong if that is what you mean.
how are they provoking them...the religious group that you have so much difficulty with it seems
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
What insult, from who and to whom? What pun? That is a clear tangent in discussion. Shifting topic and being unclear.
Skeptical is good I think.
1 Corinthians 13:5
Deuteronomy 32:21 1 Kings 14:22 1 Kings 16:13 Psalms 78:58 1 John 4:8 1 John 4:16
I am not saying that.
Then it is good I do not mean it.
Why not ask someone who gets woken up by them at 9:30 Saturday mornings?
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No, better yet, why not ask the woman who was disfellowshipped by them for insisting that the dogma that Jesus came invisibly to the Bible Students in 1914 is not true? She has grandchildren by her Jehovah Witness children whom she has never seen because she is "bad association" for not believing in their version of Jesus.
My being provoked by love is in me. It does not come forcibly by God. OK? It is me provoking me because I want to. Love does not provoke. If love DID provoke, then everyone would be a disciple.
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Might I ask my husband to post what it felt like to him to have a wife who converted to the Jehovah's Witness religion after he married her?
The Jehovah's Witnesses go door to door hoping to make the whole world into disciples of Jesus Christ. Why? It is because it is what they read in the Bible. Millions of people dedicated to obeying the last command that Jesus gave. But did he?
It seems? I have difficulty believing them but so do you. How can anyone believe them but go about their business feeling free when they say the Bible says that you must join them? Do you believe that you must become a lover of Jehovah the same way they love Jehovah? They love Jehovah by going door to door converting people to their way. Why are you not doing it? Are you having difficulty believing it?
I pick on them (not seem to) because they call themselves The Truth. Is that true? Are they The Truth?
I know by my own Bible study that Jesus is The Truth. Are they Jesus? Are they more Jesus than anyone else? If they are and you are not one of them then you are disobeying Jesus Christ. If they aren't then they should probably be shamed into stopping it. Please.
I know other religions consider themselves The Truth but I try to stick with what I know. Don't you?
I know them as I was one! Haha They made a mistake it seems. Does Truth make mistakes? If yes, then please give as an example please. Thank you.
Did Jesus command the going around to make disciples? Matthew 28:19
Or did Jesus command the being of a disciple in everything that you do so that people will know what a disciple is and choose it for themselves.....or not?
Or did Jesus command the being of a disciple in everything that you do so that people will know what a disciple is and choose it for themselves.....or not?
If the second one is true making the first one false then the Bible is lying but God tells the truth. I know for certain the Bible is being chosen over The Christ. The Jehovah's Witnesses do it in God's Name.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Honestly, I am willing to bet that Jesus did say something like "live like me". The early deciples/apostles seem to have done that, living in socialistic societies where property was shared by the community as a whole. But, that way of life does not support progress, so the early church probably shied away from it.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
God didn't write the Bible. Human beings did.
The report of Jesus Christ points to the fact that he went wherever God had him go. I do not believe God's son meant for his disciples to live together as the nations tend to do. Abraham is a good example of what it means to be a disciple. He went where God told him to go. I think that being a disciple means to obey The Holy Spirit. The command was made to Adam, "to fill the Earth and subdue it". That is what a disciple is to do also I think.