Princeps Eugenius
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A provoking thread name but bear with me and i will provide historical and archaeological proof for all of my arguments. First thing first: Did Yahweh have the genitals of a donkey? We read in the bible the following:
“And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, with the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness in appearance of a man above upon it. And I saw as the color of amber, with the appearance of fire round about within it. From the appearance of His loins even upward and from the appearance of His loins even downward, I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. “ - Ezekiel 1:26-27
Okay we got that but where does it say that the loins were as big as that of a donkey? Where does it speak of length at all? Let us see. The following verse will bring us closer to my argument:
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." - Ezekiel 23:20
So we see that the same Author, prophet Ezekiel, who saw the loins of Yahweh speaks of comparisons of private parts to that of donkeys. Isnt it strange that after seeing the loins of Yahweh he later speaks about genitals the size of an *** and its very important that the *** is mentioned here because we will find out that the Jews actually worshiped a donkey in the temple and Yahweh, who had donkey genitals (might as welll be part donkey part god). Or could it be just coincidence? Who knows but it is strange indeed. And now to the final point.
Josephus in his book 'Against Apion' sums up the supposedly false historical accusations of his opponent Apion who mentions an ancient incident (After Antiochus IV Epiphanes conquers Jerusalem in 167 BCE) as following:
"when Antiochus Epiphanes spoiled our temple he found an ***'s head there made of gold, and worth a great deal of money."
and
"the Jews placed an ***'s head in their holy place"
This historical claim that the Jews had an idol of a golden donkey is not unique. Josephus himself says in the same book that apart from Apion there are 2 other historians who reported a similar story. These historians are called “Possidonius” and “Apollonius the son of Molo”. So there were 3 different historians reporting that the Jews had an idol of an *** in their holy of holies where Yahweh supposedly lives. There has to be something to it otherwise such a rumor wouldn't have started.
Is this just a random accusation to discredit Jews as being worshipers of a donkey, an animal of ridicule in the ancient world because of its stubbornness? No, i don't think so. There's got to be more to the story than just hear say.
In the ancient world a donkey was considered to be a sign of sexuality. As can be witnessed in the ancient novel called 'The golden ***' by Apuleius. The person in this novel is transformed into an *** and comes close to having sex with a female. And i don't even need to prove much of this anyway since Ezekiel himself states in 23:20 “There she LUSTED after the members the same size as that of donkeys and emissions as that of horses” Why would she LUST after such and such member unless it were a sign of fertility and sexually arousing?
So we learned that
1) Ezekiel saw the loins of Yahweh.
2) Later he tells us about the loins after a woman lusted as being of the size of a donkey. Ezekiel only talks 2 times about loins in his book. First Yahweh then the loins of an ***.
3)The Jews had an idol of a donkey in their holy temple.
I don't know about you but to me it seems obvious that the fiery loins of Yahweh must have been the same size of an *** and the Jews worshiping a donkey in the Holy of Holies could have been an idol of Yahweh himself or at least his private parts.
It is also interesting to know that the only animal Jesus came in contact with in the entire Gospels was the colt of an ***.
"Tell ye the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, Meek, and riding upon an ***, And upon a colt the foal of an ***." Matthew 21:5, Mark 11:4-9, Luke 19:33-38
"And Jesus, having found a young ***, sat thereon; as it is written, Fear not, daughter of Zion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ***'s colt." John 12:14-15
Now we proceed to the question whether Yahweh had a consort. Recent modern discoveries were made in Israel one of which are steles with these inscriptions:
"I bless you by Yahweh of Samaria and by his asherah," and "I bless you by Yahweh of Teiman and by his asherah." Source: “Recent Archaeological Discoveries and Biblical Research” by William G. Dever
Such discoveries made the french epigrapher Andre Lemaire proclaim:
“Whatever an asherah is, Yahweh had one!”
There are many verses in the books of the bible which hint at other possible consorts which Yahweh could have had.
“Does not wisdom call out? Does not understanding raise her voice? At the highest point along the way, where the paths meet, she takes her stand; beside the gate leading into the city” Proverbs 8:1-3
Here we have somebody called 'wisdom' ('Sophia' in Greek) and she is female. What else is there to know?
“I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth Then I was constantly at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence” - Proverbs 8:27-30
A female constantly at the side of our beloved Yahweh who has fiery loins. She is filled with delight day after day and 'rejoicing in his presence'. Very interesting.
There is another female or perhaps the same in the book of Jeremiah however she could and is most likely not Sophia anymore but the former goddess, called Asherah, because she too was called by the title 'Queen of Heaven'.
“The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger.” - Jeremiah 7:18
"We will certainly do everything we said we would: We will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven and will pour out drink offerings to her just as we and our ancestors, our kings and our officials did in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. At that time we had plenty of food and were well off and suffered no harm. But ever since we stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have had nothing and have been perishing by sword and famine.” The women added, “When we burned incense to the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes impressed with her image and pouring out drink offerings to her?”” - Jeremiah 44:17-19
It seems as if Yahweh got bored from the 'Queen of Heaven', his former historical wife(Asherah), and instead prefer Sophia who after all was delighted and rejoiced with his presence.
Now I will try to prove that when the bible speaks of 'the Sons of God' it is very likely to mean real offspring from God not in a metaphorical sense. God had real children not by an asexual creation out of dust but probably he had them with his wife Asherah or the later Lady Sophia. We read the following:
"the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose." - Genesis 6:2
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them." - Job 1:6
“when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
- Job 38:7
“Ascribe to the Lord, O sons of God ascribe to the Lord glory and strength.”
- Psalms 29:1
All of these passages speak of the sons of God and nothing about it seems to be metaphorical. These Sons also seem to be either living in Heaven with God or they are clearly supernatural in some way because they are distinguished from humans in Genesis 6:2
We move to the last point I would like to make about Yahweh and sexuality. To me it seems odd that Yahweh the deity who was associated with a donkey to his sexual power and had many sons could make the world in such an asexual manner. No there has to be some other explanation or interpretation to creating Adam. I will make my own case.
In Johns Gospel we read:
“When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.” - John 9:6-7
So God needs some kind of body fluid from himself in order for the magical process to work. So I was wondering if Yahweh who we read about in the creation story:
“then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground” - Genesis 2:7
There is something missing here... the verse does go on to say:
“and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being.” - Genesis 2:7
Still I myself believe that he had to use some other sort of fluid in order to create a living being. Jesus couldn't just breathe on the blind man in order to make him become functional after all. So I am persuaded to think that our mighty Yahweh with the loins of fire masturbated on the ground and mingled his semen with the earth to form the first human being. This makes more sense in context with the Gospel of John narrative.
“And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, with the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness in appearance of a man above upon it. And I saw as the color of amber, with the appearance of fire round about within it. From the appearance of His loins even upward and from the appearance of His loins even downward, I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. “ - Ezekiel 1:26-27
Okay we got that but where does it say that the loins were as big as that of a donkey? Where does it speak of length at all? Let us see. The following verse will bring us closer to my argument:
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." - Ezekiel 23:20
So we see that the same Author, prophet Ezekiel, who saw the loins of Yahweh speaks of comparisons of private parts to that of donkeys. Isnt it strange that after seeing the loins of Yahweh he later speaks about genitals the size of an *** and its very important that the *** is mentioned here because we will find out that the Jews actually worshiped a donkey in the temple and Yahweh, who had donkey genitals (might as welll be part donkey part god). Or could it be just coincidence? Who knows but it is strange indeed. And now to the final point.
Josephus in his book 'Against Apion' sums up the supposedly false historical accusations of his opponent Apion who mentions an ancient incident (After Antiochus IV Epiphanes conquers Jerusalem in 167 BCE) as following:
"when Antiochus Epiphanes spoiled our temple he found an ***'s head there made of gold, and worth a great deal of money."
and
"the Jews placed an ***'s head in their holy place"
- “Against Apion” Book 2:7 – Josephus
This historical claim that the Jews had an idol of a golden donkey is not unique. Josephus himself says in the same book that apart from Apion there are 2 other historians who reported a similar story. These historians are called “Possidonius” and “Apollonius the son of Molo”. So there were 3 different historians reporting that the Jews had an idol of an *** in their holy of holies where Yahweh supposedly lives. There has to be something to it otherwise such a rumor wouldn't have started.
Is this just a random accusation to discredit Jews as being worshipers of a donkey, an animal of ridicule in the ancient world because of its stubbornness? No, i don't think so. There's got to be more to the story than just hear say.
In the ancient world a donkey was considered to be a sign of sexuality. As can be witnessed in the ancient novel called 'The golden ***' by Apuleius. The person in this novel is transformed into an *** and comes close to having sex with a female. And i don't even need to prove much of this anyway since Ezekiel himself states in 23:20 “There she LUSTED after the members the same size as that of donkeys and emissions as that of horses” Why would she LUST after such and such member unless it were a sign of fertility and sexually arousing?
So we learned that
1) Ezekiel saw the loins of Yahweh.
2) Later he tells us about the loins after a woman lusted as being of the size of a donkey. Ezekiel only talks 2 times about loins in his book. First Yahweh then the loins of an ***.
3)The Jews had an idol of a donkey in their holy temple.
I don't know about you but to me it seems obvious that the fiery loins of Yahweh must have been the same size of an *** and the Jews worshiping a donkey in the Holy of Holies could have been an idol of Yahweh himself or at least his private parts.
It is also interesting to know that the only animal Jesus came in contact with in the entire Gospels was the colt of an ***.
"Tell ye the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, Meek, and riding upon an ***, And upon a colt the foal of an ***." Matthew 21:5, Mark 11:4-9, Luke 19:33-38
"And Jesus, having found a young ***, sat thereon; as it is written, Fear not, daughter of Zion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ***'s colt." John 12:14-15
Now we proceed to the question whether Yahweh had a consort. Recent modern discoveries were made in Israel one of which are steles with these inscriptions:
"I bless you by Yahweh of Samaria and by his asherah," and "I bless you by Yahweh of Teiman and by his asherah." Source: “Recent Archaeological Discoveries and Biblical Research” by William G. Dever
Such discoveries made the french epigrapher Andre Lemaire proclaim:
“Whatever an asherah is, Yahweh had one!”
There are many verses in the books of the bible which hint at other possible consorts which Yahweh could have had.
“Does not wisdom call out? Does not understanding raise her voice? At the highest point along the way, where the paths meet, she takes her stand; beside the gate leading into the city” Proverbs 8:1-3
Here we have somebody called 'wisdom' ('Sophia' in Greek) and she is female. What else is there to know?
“I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth Then I was constantly at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence” - Proverbs 8:27-30
A female constantly at the side of our beloved Yahweh who has fiery loins. She is filled with delight day after day and 'rejoicing in his presence'. Very interesting.
There is another female or perhaps the same in the book of Jeremiah however she could and is most likely not Sophia anymore but the former goddess, called Asherah, because she too was called by the title 'Queen of Heaven'.
“The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger.” - Jeremiah 7:18
"We will certainly do everything we said we would: We will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven and will pour out drink offerings to her just as we and our ancestors, our kings and our officials did in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. At that time we had plenty of food and were well off and suffered no harm. But ever since we stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have had nothing and have been perishing by sword and famine.” The women added, “When we burned incense to the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes impressed with her image and pouring out drink offerings to her?”” - Jeremiah 44:17-19
It seems as if Yahweh got bored from the 'Queen of Heaven', his former historical wife(Asherah), and instead prefer Sophia who after all was delighted and rejoiced with his presence.
Now I will try to prove that when the bible speaks of 'the Sons of God' it is very likely to mean real offspring from God not in a metaphorical sense. God had real children not by an asexual creation out of dust but probably he had them with his wife Asherah or the later Lady Sophia. We read the following:
"the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose." - Genesis 6:2
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them." - Job 1:6
“when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
- Job 38:7
“Ascribe to the Lord, O sons of God ascribe to the Lord glory and strength.”
- Psalms 29:1
All of these passages speak of the sons of God and nothing about it seems to be metaphorical. These Sons also seem to be either living in Heaven with God or they are clearly supernatural in some way because they are distinguished from humans in Genesis 6:2
We move to the last point I would like to make about Yahweh and sexuality. To me it seems odd that Yahweh the deity who was associated with a donkey to his sexual power and had many sons could make the world in such an asexual manner. No there has to be some other explanation or interpretation to creating Adam. I will make my own case.
In Johns Gospel we read:
“When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.” - John 9:6-7
So God needs some kind of body fluid from himself in order for the magical process to work. So I was wondering if Yahweh who we read about in the creation story:
“then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground” - Genesis 2:7
There is something missing here... the verse does go on to say:
“and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being.” - Genesis 2:7
Still I myself believe that he had to use some other sort of fluid in order to create a living being. Jesus couldn't just breathe on the blind man in order to make him become functional after all. So I am persuaded to think that our mighty Yahweh with the loins of fire masturbated on the ground and mingled his semen with the earth to form the first human being. This makes more sense in context with the Gospel of John narrative.
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