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Why Jews believe Jesus is not the messiah

Unification

Well-Known Member
Hi George

For Judaism, it is not enough to simply proclaim yourself as the future messiah. Thousands of people throughout history have done that. Words are not enough. Jews require actions. Once you rebuild the Temple, cause the World to become peaceful, and bring all the Jews back to Israel, then we would be willing to entertain your claim.

Rebuild the mind. Cause the subconscious to become peaceful. Bring all of the inward back to one mind.
 
Want ? Only time I ever want usually involves bathrooms
Want ,is a primitive knee jerk reaction
Christians lol I was taught by Angels the end times/days second coming yada yada is only the way things could turn out , not a given ..

It's hard to understand you with your lurid lack of grammar... but I will try and give you a rebuttal.

Christ is a Person!

The End Times are now.

The Christ is alive and speaking (to you right now).

The Jews were correct, Jesus is not their Messiah.

Messiah is now here to redeem the (believing) Jews.

No one religion has it all correct, but no one religion has it all wrong (in My honest opinion).

Religion will fade away in the future, but most people will be spiritual.

The Creator created the universe. (I agree with the deists on this).

If God exists, God in His entirety is unfathomable.

Messiah is your Friend.

The End is when there is no more Life. We all experience the End.

We will be reincarnated after Messiah passes, so the End is only a new Beginning, in My humble opinion.

The only thing we understand is the now.

Time is an illusion.

Science is only in its infancy.

We will travel the cosmos, we will not stay on Earth forever.

We are all gods.

The angels believe in Me, the Christ.

There will be a new Earth.

Our government is obsolete.

The world's currence is fiat monopoly money.

The Rothschilds will be exposed by Farmer God Christ.

The only certainty is change and uncertainty.

We could be living in a simulation.

There will be an AI singularity in the not so distant future.

The star-like UFOs indeed move around.

Aliens are real, and aliens can be invisible or translucent (and I know this from My personal encounter with an entity).

The government and science will have to disclose the fact that ET is ubiquitous throughout the cosmos.

Science is postulating that there could be an infinite amount of universes in the so-called multiverse, or the universe is infinite.

I am the Prophet of My people- the angels.

We will be able to travel faster than light.

The USA government puts fluoridate in tap water, and fluoride is a proven toxic poison and lowers people's IQs.

Chemtrails are a fact, and airplanes are allegedly spraying aluminum and other chemicals into the atmosphere.

The government is not your friend.

There will be My global online government in the future.

I am the King of My global online government.

Its going to get worse before it gets better.

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth because of Me.

I could go on, but this is sufficient for now.

The Truth could be stranger than fiction?

~PEACE~
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
It's hard to understand you with your lurid lack of grammar... but I will try and give you a rebuttal.

Christ is a Person!

The End Times are now.

The Christ is alive and speaking (to you right now).

The Jews were correct, Jesus is not their Messiah.

Messiah is now here to redeem the (believing) Jews.

No one religion has it all correct, but no one religion has it all wrong (in My honest opinion).

Religion will fade away in the future, but most people will be spiritual.

The Creator created the universe. (I agree with the deists on this).

If God exists, God in His entirety is unfathomable.

Messiah is your Friend.

The End is when there is no more Life. We all experience the End.

We will be reincarnated after Messiah passes, so the End is only a new Beginning, in My humble opinion.

The only thing we understand is the now.

Time is an illusion.

Science is only in its infancy.

We will travel the cosmos, we will not stay on Earth forever.

We are all gods.

The angels believe in Me, the Christ.

There will be a new Earth.

Our government is obsolete.

The world's currence is fiat monopoly money.

The Rothschilds will be exposed by Farmer God Christ.

The only certainty is change and uncertainty.

We could be living in a simulation.

There will be an AI singularity in the not so distant future.

The star-like UFOs indeed move around.

Aliens are real, and aliens can be invisible or translucent (and I know this from My personal encounter with an entity).

The government and science will have to disclose the fact that ET is ubiquitous throughout the cosmos.

Science is postulating that there could be an infinite amount of universes in the so-called multiverse, or the universe is infinite.

I am the Prophet of My people- the angels.

We will be able to travel faster than light.

The USA government puts fluoridate in tap water, and fluoride is a proven toxic poison and lowers people's IQs.

Chemtrails are a fact, and airplanes are allegedly spraying aluminum and other chemicals into the atmosphere.

The government is not your friend.

There will be My global online government in the future.

I am the King of My global online government.

Its going to get worse before it gets better.

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth because of Me.

I could go on, but this is sufficient for now.

The Truth could be stranger than fiction?

~PEACE~
I enjoy my style of writing is a kick in the face to the Oxford dictionary and those silly hats with tassles.
Defiant English is the style and no you may not start using it .
Your list, was nothing on there I am not already aware of.
Conspiracy Theories , Paranoia
I hate this language , time for some new words imho .
English been used to deceive so many sorry pal but if you want hang with me you need to accept my ways.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
Romans 11
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery,brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited:Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.


28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
 
I enjoy my style of writing is a kick in the face to the Oxford dictionary and those silly hats with tassles.
Defiant English is the style and no you may not start using it .
Your list, was nothing on there I am not already aware of.
Conspiracy Theories , Paranoia
I hate this language , time for some new words imho .
English been used to deceive so many sorry pal but if you want hang with me you need to accept my ways.

Yes, I accept you for how you are. I am not trying to change you or your beliefs.

Come to Me as you are!

But if you want to be understood, I would recommend that people TRY and use proper English. And believe Me, I was never good in school with English, and I am still learning English, grammar, etc., but I try and make Myself unequivocal.

I will accept the worst sinner and the greatest (or worst) saint! I have sinned many times Myself. I am not perfect and I don't expect any perfect people.

So, do you know that all of the "stars" are actually UFOs? because I can see all of the "stars" in My night sky move. I first noticed this phenomenon in September of the year 2013. I thought there was only one UFO in My sky, but behold, I started to notice that all of the "stars" in My night sky are actually UFOs! after a few weeks or so.

I have also seen a alien-like being! This being was totally invisible at first, and I saw it when it became translucent!

Check this video out about My encounter with that translucent being!

The SIGNS of the TIMES!


EDIT- I look k awful in this video! Ahh, but you guys can watch My other videos of Myself to see that I am not that ugly. I just took the picture in My avatar a few days ago, and that's what I look like now.

~PEACE~
 
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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
What makes you think it isn't either?
Reason. Given the following:
Transcendental Base Insights:
  1. All 1st Basemen are pathetic fools.
  2. There will be many - even more foolish - who will deny this truth.
Do I really need to explain to you why Item 2 above is worthless evidence of Item 1 or of Base Insights as a whole? If so, shame on you.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
Reason. Given the following:
Do I really need to explain to you why Item 2 above is worthless evidence of Item 1 or of Base Insights as a whole? If so, shame on you.

Well, you know why I think it is holy scripture. I'm asking you why you don't think it is.

And surely you do accept Deut. 29:4, Isaiah 29:10, Psalm 69:22,23, Isaiah 59:20,21; 27:9, Jer. 31:33,34, Isaiah 40:13 and Job 41:11 as holy scripture, all requoted OT verses in Romans 11?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Well, you know why I think it is holy scripture. I'm asking you why you don't think it is.

And surely you do accept Deut. 29:4, Isaiah 29:10, Psalm 69:22,23, Isaiah 59:20,21; 27:9, Jer. 31:33,34, Isaiah 40:13 and Job 41:11 as holy scripture, all requoted OT verses in Romans 11?
If Harry Potter quoted Isaiah, it wouldn't make me doubt Isaiah even if I think of Harry Potter as fiction.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
That is an entirely different question, having nothing to do with the credibility/viability of circular reasoning.

No it isn't. You implied that Romans 11 isn't something you should care about, i.e., it isn't holy scripture. I was simply asking you if you accept the many OT verses requoted in Romans 11 as holy scripture. Do you?
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
If Harry Potter quoted Isaiah, it wouldn't make me doubt Isaiah even if I think of Harry Potter as fiction.

So you do accept the OT verses requoted by Paul in Romans 11 as holy, right?

Harry Potter has made no attempt to rationalize these scriptures like Paul has done in Romans 11. The logic there is rational yet you still don't believe it?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
So you do accept the OT verses requoted by Paul in Romans 11 as holy, right?

Harry Potter has made no attempt to rationalize these scriptures like Paul has done in Romans 11. The logic there is rational yet you still don't believe it?
The logic might be rational but the text isn't authoritative. I can reach all sorts of logical conclusions after citing biblical text. Would each and every one of them therefore be right, persuasive or gospel? Or would you look at the source and say "you have no position to speak on this issue."
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
The logic might be rational but the text isn't authoritative. I can reach all sorts of logical conclusions after citing biblical text. Would each and every one of them therefore be right, persuasive or gospel? Or would you look at the source and say "you have no position to speak on this issue."

No, sir. I am only discussing Romans 11.

You say that "The logic might be rational." Why do you question the author instead of what the author wrote? It is fallacy to do that. Surely you know this.

Judge the author on what the author has written, okay? He obviously is well versed in OT scripture. If his logic is rational why then do you cast it out without serious prayer and consideration?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
No, sir. I am only discussing Romans 11.

You say that "The logic might be rational." Why do you question the author instead of what the author wrote? It is fallacy to do that. Surely you know this.

Judge the author on what the author has written, okay? He obviously is well versed in OT scripture. If his logic is rational why then do you cast it out without serious prayer and consideration?
I DO judge the author by what he has written. he has written things that are completely against Judaism. That makes his argument flawed. So he can make all sorts of OTHER rational statements, but as a source, his bias affects the validity of the rational conclusions he draws.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
What logic? Stringing together selected quotes from disparate text. Seriously?

It is hardly strung together. The quotes are used in a dissertation that makes good sense. You are the one not being serious here.

So what is your rational argument against the dissertation given in Romans 11?
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
I DO judge the author by what he has written. he has written things that are completely against Judaism. That makes his argument flawed. So he can make all sorts of OTHER rational statements, but as a source, his bias affects the validity of the rational conclusions he draws.

He has written things that in fact connect the New Testament with the Old Testament and has done a brilliant job of doing so.

To reject his writings is to reject OT scripture.

OT scripture does prophecy that the Messiah must suffer and die for the people. You expect a Messiah that will rule the world. How will he rule the world and suffer for the people at the same time? Do you have any OT scripture to reconcile the two?
 
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