Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Oh wow. A further display of your maturity. Nice going.
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JW's Preach A Different Gospel
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Maturity is debating the evidence, which you've still failed to do
in the mean time, I make jest.
They don't debate and I am sure they won't debate.
They do not believe the Bible at Proverbs 11:14 Proverbs 15:22 Proverbs 24:6
They do not believe the Bible at Proverbs 11:14 Proverbs 15:22 Proverbs 24:6
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
You have provided no evidence, merely accusations. If I were to say:Maturity is debating the evidence, which you've still failed to do
JFish123 believes the moon in made of green cheese.
JFish123 believes monkeys have wings.
JFish123 believes black is white and that green is red.
what kind of evidence would you be able to provide that these things are not true? All you could really do was tell me that these claims were false. If I were to ignore you and were instead to post more lies -- lies so preposterous as to not even warrant a response, lies like these:
JFish123 sacrifices children to his god, Satan.
JFish123 has sex with his dog.
JFish123 is in his twenties and is still not toilet-trained.
sooner or later you'd start thinking my approach was pretty juvenile. There is nothing immature in refusing to respond someone who considers the above example to be "debate." Plagiarism, on the other hand (which we both know you're guilty of) is a tactic frequently used by lazy children who don't want to do their homework. Just consider this: If you have to undercut another person’s position to make your position look good, there is something seriously lacking in your position. I don't think anybody on this forum really knows a thing about what you believe, because none of your posts really give us any insights into anything other than what you think you know about other people's beliefs. And most of what you post about other people's beliefs is not evidence at all, just half-truths and parodies concocted by Matt Slick.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Uh... who's "they"? People like JFish123? Or people like me? I'm not quite sure what you're thinking.
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The Jehovah's Witnesses will not address anything that differs from their diet that is fed to them by the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. They call all disagreement "bashing". In fact, they call people who question any dogma of theirs "sick" and "mentally diseased".
Will You Heed Jehovah’s Clear Warnings? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
"5 How do false teachers operate? Their methods reveal a cunning spirit. Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views.....Clearly, apostates do not have our best interests at heart. ....Why go to such dried-up wells only to be deceived and disappointed? .....By heeding God’s warning to separate ourselves and “quit touching the unclean thing,” we will not be misled by false stories......"
"Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings."
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#1: I post evidence all the time. The very post we were debating which started this, I gave clear historical evidence that the date the Jehovahs Witnesses use to calculate there 1914 prediction is false. If I ever accuse, I also give EVIDENCE as to why it is wrong. Even many memes I create do such a thing
#2: EVERYONE gets there information somewhere in life. As to know anything, we have to learn about it. I learn through books, history, the Bible, apologetics from books/internet (so long as it's backed up by fact), etc... And if doing research, I find the answers from others THAT I AGREE WITH, so why would I bother typing the truth out again and waste that amount of time, when I can just show what TRUTH another person already has on the topic? You call it cut and paste (trying to signal well, if he did that it's not true) instead of Seeing what TRUTH I found, that I agree with, and debating on said EVIDENCE. But instead you toss the EVIDENCE aside because I got it from another source. Does that make the EVIDENCE any less true? No, it does not
and we ALL get our evidence from other sources at one point or another, unless your saying your God and knew all these things from birth
Let's just say I am right that Jesus never said to make disciples and that love does become provoked. Then according to the JWs who won't consider either as right Jesus and the writer of 1 Corinthians 13:5 are apostates because they differ from what the gb teach. But they won't talk about it. If I am right then the JWs are apostates. Actually everyone is.....if I am right.........................................................................but nobody will talk about it. Neither side will.......it's just like I don't exist. I do not pick on other people because other people do not have the name The Truth and because other people do not teach in the Name of Jehovah.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Yeah, well, I don't know how much of what you've posted about JWs is fact and how much is fiction, and I really don't care. I'm not on RF to try to tear other people's religions down. I was referring to the lies you've posted about my religion.
Sorry, but cutting and pasting from another source without identifying that source is and always will be plagiarism. And as you have already learned, it's not a good idea to do that on this website. (I'd put you on ignore, but I know that you'll continue to plagiarize unless someone takes the initiative to report you.)And if doing research, I find the answers from others THAT I AGREE WITH, so why would I bother typing the truth out again and waste that amount of time, when I can just show what TRUTH another person already has on the topic? You call it cut and paste (trying to signal well, if he did that it's not true) instead of Seeing what TRUTH I found, that I agree with, and debating on said EVIDENCE. But instead you toss the EVIDENCE aside because I got it from another source. Does that make the EVIDENCE any less true? No, it does not
But my main point is still this: Why are you so intent on tearing other people's beliefs down? Is that really what it takes to build your self-esteem? You evidently think these tactics work, but the truth of the matter is that more often than not they backfire.
People who are desperate to get the truth known do not care about their personal image. SOME people will understand that the Jehovah's Witnesses are just another religion of which the Bible Students (the former name of their organization) say "religion is a snare and a racket" and save someone a lot of trouble.
I'm intent on teaching what is truth and what is false. Again, if you or anyone has evidence to the contrary let's debate, if you have no such evidence that my evidence is somehow false then why reply against my evidence?
Yoshua
Well-Known Member
Yoshua
Well-Known Member
I see you must resort to the childish nonsense again. I can only plead with you to grow up.
This is what really happening. Do you come to a point that you study the scripture by yourself and not dependent on the Watchtower/JW teacher?
Thanks
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Yoshua
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Hi Jay,
If that would be the case, it might seem JW organization is dependent with Russell and his group. If in case that there is another group who did what Russell and company do during 1800’s to 2000’s, would you think this is valid and true?
If that will be the case, then you did not have a freedom to study scriptures by your own, but being dependent on the source given by Watchtower?
The case of the first Christians differed with our current situation except for the bereans who examine and studied well if Paul’s saying is true. Do you mean that JW members had no freedom to examine the Scriptures and dependent to JW organization/Watchtower?
Paul at Berea
10. And the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea; and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things were so
Thanks
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
Where in the Scriptures did Jesus, or anyone ever use the term "paradise earth?" NEVER!
Watchtower strings verses together and then creates a doctrine from them.
Luke 23:43
And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth
Luke 23:43 + Matthew 5:5 does not equal paradise earth.
You asked what is the purpose of the kingdom.
The kingdom is a spiritual realm of fellowship with God. Christ is King and ruler. The citizens of the kingdom are the saved, the called out, those who are ruling and reigning with Christ through the truth of the gospel they proclaim to the whole world. The purpose of the kingdom is to be a beacon of light to the world, to make God’s wisdom known.
Now it's your turn Pegg. Tell me what the purpose of the kingdom is.
And while you are at it, please give me an example from Scripture of Watchtower gospel being preached.
"Let the honest-hearted person compare the kind of preaching of the gospel done by the religious systems of Christendom during all the centuries with that done by Jehovah's Witnesses since the end of World War I in 1918. They are not one and the same kind.That of Jehovah's Witnesses is really "gospel" or "good news," as of God's heavenly kingdom that was established by the enthronement of his Son Jesus Christ at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914." (Watchtower, May 1, 1981, p. 17)
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
Think back to Jehovah's original purpose for mankind. Where did Adam and Eve live? Genesis 2:15-17
What were their prospects and what assignment did Jehovah give to them?
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Daniel 2:44
What will the Kingdom of God break into pieces? and why?
I think we should talk about Daniel 2:44. It might mean that all the world's kingdoms are for breaking God's kingdom. Look at the original please and tell me it CAN'T mean that and why can't it.
Tell me what kingdom of man is for God's Kingdom. Please tell me which one of Earth's kingdoms has NOT crowded out God's Kingdom. תַּדִּ֤ק
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Some people say that The Bible can be believed because it has survived many attempts to destroy it with its people. So why not apply that to God's Kingdom? Daniel 2:44
Daniel 2:44 Hebrew Text Analysis
Daniel 2:44 Hebrew Text Analysis
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