It isn't written soft men. It is written soft. One word which describes comfortable clothing which The Lord himself used. μαλακοὶ
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BUT if you are wrong and are not teaching God's word rightly then it is to God you are not being peaceable. And to the writer of scripture who you are not being peaceable with. Does it matter that they are all dead? Of course not! They are all living to YHVH.
Mountain_Climber
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Why is this such a hot topic to you?
Why is what a hot topic? That The Bible isn't being taught right? Or making μαλακοὶ not about Men SEX?
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Mountain_Climber
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Well the point is that if Paul didn't mean it that way then we have the Bible making being soft a crime that prohibits entering the Kingdom of God.
So take your pick.
As for me, I have to believe that as Paul taught more about God's love than any other New Testament writer, he must have been using it concerning a very negative act of some nature. It could be only something as comparable to what Jesus said, "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men." Matthew 5:13
Perhaps you are right that it does mean soft as in the fizz gone out of a carbonated beverage. We call that going soft. Or do we call that going flat? And the drink soft?
Oh well. Bad example but I think you get my point.
That is right.
It is absolutely not about men sex because that is redundant. I do not know anywhere else in scripture where redundancy is found. My pick is to separate myself from all the people who side with Bible error, which is everyone. Isn't it?
Why do you "have to" believe Paul wrote more about love than anyone? What about James or John?
Being soft means to be a friend of the World. Whoever wants to be a friend of the world is making himself an enemy of God. James 4:4
Yes. Truth is salt. Add a lie to it and it loses it's saltiness.
Perhaps.
No example is a bad example when the intent is good.
Being soft is a crime which prohibits the offender from entering The Kingdom of God.
It absolutely should be taught what it is and not what it isn't.
Who teach what it isn't, what happens to them and to the people who side with them?
Numbers 16
It absolutely should be taught what it is and not what it isn't.
Who teach what it isn't, what happens to them and to the people who side with them?
Numbers 16
Desert Snake
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Anyways, soft also means weak in faith, /but keep in mind, having the 'wrong' faith is not a good thing; there is nothing correct about someone clinging staunchly to incorrect beliefs..
The belief that it is Jehovah who brings ruin and not humankind who brings ruin is a false teaching also imho.
They use Daniel 2:44 to prove their point. I believe Daniel 2:44 has lost its salt. I have personally restored its saltiness and I know that you have not.
Daniel 2:44 Hebrew Text Analysis
Tell me please, where in scripture is it found that Jesus says God does the destroying?
Strong's Greek: 2673. καταργέω (katargeó) -- to render inoperative, abolish
They use Daniel 2:44 to prove their point. I believe Daniel 2:44 has lost its salt. I have personally restored its saltiness and I know that you have not.
Daniel 2:44 Hebrew Text Analysis
Tell me please, where in scripture is it found that Jesus says God does the destroying?
Strong's Greek: 2673. καταργέω (katargeó) -- to render inoperative, abolish
Soft can be associated with a lack of faith I suppose. I think that people who wish to benefit comfortably by royalty do not have much interest in faith in God, none perhaps.
I am aware that the words of Daniel 2:44 are true but it does not mean what they say it means and not caring means faithless. Faithless won't inherit God's Kingdom either.
I can prove my interpretation of Daniel 2:44 but YOU can not. The second statement is a fact.
I do not know how your response is associated with my comment or with the topic.
The topic is false teaching. Every normal person has clung in some way to some false teaching. Jesus never did, I am sure. But so what? We can learn to release any false teaching, God willing. I believe that.
Jesus said that a man will reap what he has sown. But people who take pride in preaching Jesus say that GOD will interfere with that. How so? They say GOD will bring the end of The World. Jesus says what is sown will be reaped. If God interferes by bringing the end of "wickedness" then what Jesus says can't be true. in the end.
If you stubbornly hold on to any false teaching what are you doing? It is a question.
I am accustomed to arguing both sides.
The only one place of scripture which supports their interpretation of Daniel 2:44 is 1 Corinthians 15:24
Is this so?
But if you can possibly consider 1 Cor 15:24 is about a person's own personal salvation then the only proof you think you have can't mean the end of The World brought by God.
And they care?
he shall have annulled καταργήσῃ katargēsē 2673[e]
FYI there are many ways a person or thing can be made powerless. Killing it is the worse way. Isn't it?
The only one place of scripture which supports their interpretation of Daniel 2:44 is 1 Corinthians 15:24
Is this so?
But if you can possibly consider 1 Cor 15:24 is about a person's own personal salvation then the only proof you think you have can't mean the end of The World brought by God.
And they care?
he shall have annulled καταργήσῃ katargēsē 2673[e]
FYI there are many ways a person or thing can be made powerless. Killing it is the worse way. Isn't it?
To Christians, it seems to be the BEST way. It is what they teach.....Is it not?
I can not get through to anyone that the Bible might be changed. But each time another entry was conceived the whole was changed.
Please pray upon the Bible's word "all". It means whole. If the wholeness of the Bible was changed each time a holy prophet wrote, then it can be changed.
In fact, the proof of that is in the many different versions of it!
How do people who believe the Bible can't be changed explain the different versions of it? According to some people, I can't be heard because I want it changed. But each time it was added to IT WAS CHANGED.
If the Bible is able to deceive like I believe it is doing then a person can deceive even himself. We know this is true. But according to World, it does not matter. A world living in deception is the best we can hope for according to the multitude of counselors. I'll give up one day and be forgotten. The Bible actually warns believers of what will happen to them, but they won't know why because they chose to ignore.
Please pray upon the Bible's word "all". It means whole. If the wholeness of the Bible was changed each time a holy prophet wrote, then it can be changed.
In fact, the proof of that is in the many different versions of it!
How do people who believe the Bible can't be changed explain the different versions of it? According to some people, I can't be heard because I want it changed. But each time it was added to IT WAS CHANGED.
If the Bible is able to deceive like I believe it is doing then a person can deceive even himself. We know this is true. But according to World, it does not matter. A world living in deception is the best we can hope for according to the multitude of counselors. I'll give up one day and be forgotten. The Bible actually warns believers of what will happen to them, but they won't know why because they chose to ignore.
As if I am communicating.
They say the Bible is God's Word thus it can't be lying. Even though in it it is written that YHVH sent a deceiving spirit for the will of God to do.
1 Kings 22: 21"Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.' 22"The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.'23"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
Why would God allow God's word to be delivered with errors in it? It is because the teaching of errors is a warning not to follow those people. Right?
Now the whole believing world follows some lies. It can't be! BUT THE BIBLE SAYS IT CAN BE. 1 John 5:19
They are ALL pickers/choosers. So it is OK to be free. It really is!
They say the Bible is God's Word thus it can't be lying. Even though in it it is written that YHVH sent a deceiving spirit for the will of God to do.
1 Kings 22: 21"Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.' 22"The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.'23"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
Why would God allow God's word to be delivered with errors in it? It is because the teaching of errors is a warning not to follow those people. Right?
Now the whole believing world follows some lies. It can't be! BUT THE BIBLE SAYS IT CAN BE. 1 John 5:19
They are ALL pickers/choosers. So it is OK to be free. It really is!
Why would something be so important that God lies for it? Matthew 24:24
If possible does not mean they are above being mislead. It means God will make a way out for them. The way out God made for them is to send a deceptive spirit (a strange thing) and God's true children will not listen to the voice of strangers. Some leave and go back to their own pursuits Matthew 26:31 but then the internet! So now truth rains on the internet. For how long? I suspect not long.
If possible does not mean they are above being mislead. It means God will make a way out for them. The way out God made for them is to send a deceptive spirit (a strange thing) and God's true children will not listen to the voice of strangers. Some leave and go back to their own pursuits Matthew 26:31 but then the internet! So now truth rains on the internet. For how long? I suspect not long.