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8 Hezbi Terrorists killed in Qalamoun

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I know you are the best one to ask this, so I'm going for it. What's with all the animosity between Muslims who agree on everything but a few, seemingly unimportant, ideas? I thought the whole idea of Islam was to unite everyone in a common faith in God. How on earth could nit-picking on meaningless differences further that goal?

Please believe me that it puzzles me as well. I don't really know why! I personally don't have that problem and consider all Muslims, well, just Muslims regardless to their sectarian thinking. I do have a thing or two that worry me, but I don't use them to judge and condemn.

The goal of Islam is to indeed unite people under the word or God and that's what I'm personally considering.

Islam says that whoever believes that there is no god but one God and Muhammad is his Prophet and creation/slave, is a Muslim. Some so called Muslims seem to have so very thick skulls to understand such a simple notion. This is really puzzling!

No explanation is possible there except for extremism and brainwashing. Dunno really.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Please believe me that it puzzles me as well. I don't really know why! I personally don't have that problem and consider all Muslims, well, just Muslims regardless to their sectarian thinking. I do have a thing or two that worry me, but I don't use them to judge and condemn.

The goal of Islam is to indeed unite people under the word or God and that's what I'm personally considering.

Islam says that whoever believes that there is no god but one God and Muhammad is his Prophet and creation/slave, is a Muslim. Some so called Muslims seem to have so very thick skulls to understand such a simple notion. This is really puzzling!

No explanation is possible there except for extremism and brainwashing. Dunno really.
Thanks for helping me to understand. It always helps to get an explanation from someone who has proved to be rational with good intentions.
 

Kalibhakta

Jai Maha Kali Ma!
U are mushrik. What the hell you know about family of prophet PBUH? LOL


Your agreement with shia rawafidh shows that shias are far removed from islam. Why else would a polytheist who worships rats and idols agree with shia unless the shia also worships idols and creatures beside Allah? Hindus and shias are closer to each other than Shias and Muslims.


I keep riding you on this because the subject shows how honestly faithless Wahhabists are. You trust an uneducated Camel Merchant who's own father and brother thought he was a fool over Muhammad himself said when He was the city of wisdom and Ali was the gates. You keep cheering on mythical Jihadists who are also not ISIS or Al-quida, which I am not so sure even exist outside of your mind. The Shia aren't defiling the dead, the Shia aren't turning Iraq and Syria into hell holes, the Shia aren't bombing Yemen into dust, and the Shia aren't drooling like ghouls at the thought of human flesh whenever some Iranian interest gets hurt.

Whenever ISIS Crushes a Iranian proxy, Israel is made stronger for it. That utterly escapes you.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
I keep riding you on this because the subject shows how honestly faithless Wahhabists are. You trust an uneducated Camel Merchant who's own father and brother thought he was a fool over Muhammad himself said when He was the city of wisdom and Ali was the gates. You keep cheering on mythical Jihadists who are also not ISIS or Al-quida, which I am not so sure even exist outside of your mind. The Shia aren't defiling the dead, the Shia aren't turning Iraq and Syria into hell holes, the Shia aren't bombing Yemen into dust, and the Shia aren't drooling like ghouls at the thought of human flesh whenever some Iranian interest gets hurt.

Whenever ISIS Crushes a Iranian proxy, Israel is made stronger for it. That utterly escapes you.



Dude u read what u are saying?


Why u talk about family of prophet Muhammad pbuh as if u believe in them lol. Dont u know they have nothing to do with Rafidha who worship graves and polytheists?? Imam Ali r.a crushed the heads of idolworshippers.


And by the way iam not wahabi or isis supporter, but sure iam glad rafidhi mercennaries are being killed in Syria.


Anyways the words of a idolworshipper means nothing. Have a nice day.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
So what if someone is a polytheist, why would you kill them just for that? That kind of proves you the worse person, am I right?



The polytheists are unclean/impure. We pray for their guidance.

O you who believe! Indeed, the polytheists (are) unclean, so let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haraam after this, their (final) year. And if you fear poverty, then soon Allah will enrich you from His Bounty, if He wills. Indeed, Allah (is) All-Knower, All-Wise.

Impurity here is about spiritual and inner wickedness. This fact is evident in India where the idolworshipper even worships Rats without logic, building a temple for them, believing that a rat can help you.

As for their idols, it reminds me about what Ibrahim peace be upon him said to his people and father:

[Mention] when he said to his father, "O my father, why do you worship that which does not hear and does not see and will not benefit you at all?
 

Kalibhakta

Jai Maha Kali Ma!
Dude u read what u are saying?


Why u talk about family of prophet Muhammad pbuh as if u believe in them lol. Dont u know they have nothing to do with Rafidha who worship graves and polytheists?? Imam Ali r.a crushed the heads of idolworshippers.


And by the way iam not wahabi or isis supporter, but sure iam glad rafidhi mercennaries are being killed in Syria.


Anyways the words of a idolworshipper means nothing. Have a nice day.

If you cannot defend your constant bloodlust that you justify with your faith then your faith is weak and if you use your faith as a weapon to badger others like you love to do, then you will be called out again and again and as a person with any intellectual honesty you should feel the need to try to defend your faith from an "Idol Worshiper" . Even if you block me, I will keep calling you out and that cuts you out of even having the chance to defend yourself. Reveling in the death of men is abhorrent and shows a contempt to God's creation.

If idol worshipers are so disgusting then why did Hussain allow the Hindus to fight with him when he was Martyred? They begged him forgiveness for their Idolatry and he forgave them and told him it did not take them away from god? Surely you can't side with the people who slaughtered the Holy Family.

Because if you did that would make you a lawless Kharijite.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Impurity here is about spiritual and inner wickedness. This fact is evident in India where the idolworshipper even worships Rats without logic, building a temple for them, believing that a rat can help you.
I read that discussion you had here where you were explained that about rats also being creations of a god and the rats aren't what is worshipped, but their creator. Of course we would not understand that, because we don't believe in that religion. That makes no sense to me either since I don't believe beings created by gods. No amount of religious buildings will help the people.

[Mention] when he said to his father, "O my father, why do you worship that which does not hear and does not see and will not benefit you at all?
Sounds like you understand atheists a bit.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
U are mushrik. What the hell you know about family of prophet PBUH? LOL


Your agreement with shia rawafidh shows that shias are far removed from islam. Why else would a polytheist who worships rats and idols agree with shia unless the shia also worships idols and creatures beside Allah? Hindus and shias are closer to each other than Shias and Muslims.
Salam brother , ramadan kareem

I am affraid this is takfir way of thinking .

Hezbollah succed to stop to suicide attackes against Lebanon that comes from Syria .

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YOU SAID :"Shias worshiped idols !!!"
anyway

let's suppose that you true :
so what if Hindus or Shias worships idols , we must kill them for that ?

do you speak Arabic ?
 
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Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Mr. "Servant"! Wow, what a good morality and ethics you have?

The morality of the above "Mushriks" (polytheists) as you refer to is more like the morality of the Prophet and Ahlulbayt, whereas I see none of those holy ethics in you.

Thus, the blessed terms such as sunni (i.e. follower of the traditions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad), shia (i.e. supporter of the Prophet's blessed progeny), sufi (i.e. woolen cloakeds; those who don't care about worldy materials) are just labels that one can not achive by merely calling himself one. It may be that someone who identifies himself as something else can be a true sunni-shia-sufi muslim.

As the Holy Prophet of Islam says; "Whoever is lagging behind in deeds will never catch up by label."

And it is sad that you think Muslims and non-Muslims should differ in everything. Probably you should stop eating-drinking-talking and even breathing then, because they are the same things the non-muslims do also.

Silly indeed.

Imam Ali, in his enhchanting letter to Maalik al-Ashtar, says that: "There are two kinds of people: those who have the same religion as you have; they are brothers to you, and those who have religions other than that of yours, they are human beings like you."

This is the truth. And human beings (whether Muslim or Christian or Hindu, etc.) have many things in common such as intelligence to differentiate between truth and falsehood, good and bad. There is nothing suprising about that.



Why damn them? I understand your condemnation of the takfiris (i.e. those who accuse believers of apostasy, polytheism, etc and then kill them) such as the takfiri ISIS, NUSRA and others. But why condemn the blessed Hizbullah for defending the Lebanese and Syrian people? Weird indeed.

Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization. It's sad to see anyone supporting it, much less someone who claims to follow a divinely inspired moral code.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization. It's sad to see anyone supporting it, much less someone who claims to follow a divinely inspired moral code.
US recongnized Hezbollah and Hamas as terrorist grace to AIPAC , and because Hezbollah is ailly to Iran.

Europe and US called it,I don't know if Hezbollah declared in UN as terrorist organization.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
US recongnized Hezbollah and Hamas as terrorist grace to AIPAC , and because Hezbollah is ailly to Iran.

Europe and US called it,I don't know if Hezbollah declared in UN as terrorist organization.

Hamas is another terrorist organization. Any organization that actively targets civilians and murders them is a terrorist organization by definition.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hamas is another terrorist organization. Any organization that actively targets civilians and murders them is a terrorist organization by definition.
IF they stop targeting civilians , just Israeli army , you thought US will remove them from terrorist list ?

why ignore/pass Israeli army targeting civilians in Palestine and Lebanon especially during the war ?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
IF they stop targeting civilians , just Israeli army , you thought US will remove them from terrorist list ?

why ignore/pass Israeli army targeting civilians in Palestine and Lebanon especially during the war ?

I don't know if the U.S. would stop classifying them as a terrorist organization, but even targeting the Israeli Army unless in self-defense is a terrorist act. The same goes for the Israeli Army: they shouldn't attack anyone except in self-defense. Both sides really need to learn that and stop committing crimes against each other.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't know if the U.S. would stop classifying them as a terrorist organization, but even targeting the Israeli Army unless in self-defense is a terrorist act. The same goes for the Israeli Army: they shouldn't attack anyone except in self-defense. Both sides really need to learn that and stop committing crimes against each other.
that's you opinion ,which i disagree .

seems politic labels take over (beat) human value .
 
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