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Does it bother you when I write ''Xian'', instead of ''Christian"?

Does, ''Xian'', instead of writing ''Christian'', bother you?


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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Yes, as Xian sounds close to my name (Zan) and Zion.... :innocent:
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Personally, I chose yes. I find it lazy and annoying, but that's just me speaking.
It's also usually used by people who could cut themselves on their edge, so even when I see it as someone who's not use it, I still find it odd. :p
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Ok, vote whether it bothers you, there has been some criticism of this, on the forums.


Have a nice day!

//disciple

It bothers me only because I value how one chose to call himself. For example, I wouldn't call you Discipul-ls, instead of discipulus (disciple in latin). I wouldnt use latin because you chose to identify yourself by English translation.

With Christ, if anything,
instead of blending Christ name in latin and english, Id just call Him Christus. If you want to get technical, you can call Him Χριστόc.

The syncrenism, just like if I were jew and called G-d, God, to me is an insult. For example, I dont like sycrenized paganism either. Both unnerves me for a second then I just live with how others want to practice paganism, or type Christ's name out. Plus, I dont identify as Christian; so, Christian is a title Im used to hearing in full with no personal attachment to the word.

Id use whatever you are comfortable. We understand what you are saying. That, and Christ isnt a name, just an attribute to descibe any person who we consider annointed. I mean, Muhammad could be The Christ to Muslims.

Then again, I love language. What did Oscar Wilde say "A poet can survive anything but a misprint." Heir heir. (Ha. Which is ironic because I have so many on RF to count.:p)

Its no big deal.

EDIT

Also, see my post #9
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We must get used to abbreviations in discussion forums because nearly everyone uses them.
They save time & space. And some express profanity without offending.
Some I like....
IRL, BTW, b4, 4sale
FUBAR, SNAFU
BTW
Xian, Xmas
USA, PRC

And we have posters' monikers:
4con, Brick, Rev Rick, St Frank, Rev (yers truly)

Urban Dictionary's entry for Xian....
This is an abbreviation for the word Christian. It comes from the Greek name for Christ, Xristos, and is essentially the same notation as we commonly see with Xmas.
Another variation on this is Xtian, although the addition of the extra t is not entirely proper.

Since it's a proper name, the "X" in "Xian" should be capitalized, just as is the "C" in "Christian" & the "G" in their "God".
I use the lower case when speaking of non-specific "gods".
Anything else is disrespectful or careless.

More blather....
"X" suggests several sounds to me, all depending context.
- "ks"
- A sound in between an "s" & "sh" in Chinese
- "kr"
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I notice some people use it not for abbreviation but to separate themselves from religion. Somewhat like saying, "I am not a Chistian, I have a relationship with Christ." Which is odd.

That, and its not Xtian. Thats English and latin syncrenism. Its Xριστόc or Christus. Taking the X out and puting it with English ending "tian", is odd. Plus, the letter X is not Christ. So, that and Xmas does not make sense. Maybe Xtus or Xtoc is more appropriate abreviation? I dont know.

I find it unnecessary in general. Why "wouldnt" a Christian want to use the word Christ? Maybe Christoc would be a good and interesting as an abbreviation too.


We must get used to abbreviations in discussion forums because nearly everyone uses them.
They save time & space. And some express profanity without offending.
Some I like....
IRL, BTW, b4, 4sale
FUBAR, SNAFU
BTW
Xian, Xmas
USA, PRC

And we have posters' monikers:
4con, Brick, Rev Rick, St Frank, Rev (yers truly)

Urban Dictionary's entry for Xian....
This is an abbreviation for the word Christian. It comes from the Greek name for Christ, Xristos, and is essentially the same notation as we commonly see with Xmas.
Another variation on this is Xtian, although the addition of the extra t is not entirely proper.

Since it's a proper name, the "X" in "Xian" should be capitalized, just as is the "C" in "Christian" & the "G" in their "God".
I use the lower case when speaking of non-specific "gods".
Anything else is disrespectful or careless.

More blather....
"X" suggests several sounds to me, all depending context.
- "ks"
- A sound in between an "s" & "sh" in Chinese
- "kr"
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I notice some people use it not for abbreviation but to separate themselves from religion. Somewhat like saying, "I am not a Chistian, I have a relationship with Christ." Which is odd.

That, and its not Xtian. Thats English and latin syncrenism. Its Xριστόc or Christus. Taking the X out and puting it with English ending "tian", is odd. Plus, the letter X is not Christ. So, that and Xmas does not make sense. Maybe Xtus is more appropriate abreviation? I dont know.

I find it unnecessary in general. Why "wouldnt" a Christian want to use the word Christ? Maybe Christoc would be a good and interesting as an abbreviation too.
Abbreviations are unnecessary, but this doesn't make them wrong.
One might ask why I, a Libertarian Party member, would abbreviate it as "Lib".
It's informal & time saving. And I don't feel disrespected by it.
Note that I use "Dem" & "Pub" for "Democrat" & "Republican".

Is your discomfort that "Christian" & "Christianity" shouldn't be abbreviated,
or is it about specific abbreviations?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Abbreviations are unnecessary, but this doesn't make them wrong.
One might ask why I, a Libertarian Party member, would abbreviate it as "Lib".
It's informal & time saving. And I don't feel disrespected by it.
Note that I use "Dem" & "Pub" for "Democrat" & "Republican".
But X does not mean Christ. Xtian is English and latin sycrinism. Maybe Xtus would be good sense they are both latin or Xtoc. But Xtian just seems poor grammar if talking of linguistics. BTW are all English words shortened. Xtian is not.

Its a incorrect abbreviation. Just like if I used FMas. I just combined feliz navidad (christmas in spanish) and english christmas. Another english appropriate abb. is to use the ' or . As in 'mas or 'tian.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But X does not mean Christ. Xtian is English and latin sycrinism. Maybe Xtus would be good sense they are both latin or Xtoc. But Xtian just seems poor grammar if talking of linguistics. BTW are all English words shortened. Xtian is not.
Alas, abbreviations lack strict regulation, & will have inconsistent constructions.
We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean.
So we're stuck with language that's a mish mash.

One I hate is the spoken abbreviation for "obstetrics & gynocology".
Instead of the more proper "OG", people spell out the first couple letters of each word, "o b g y n".
How dumb is that?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean.
So we're stuck with language that's a mish mash
Xtian is an incorrect abbreviation. If I only only knew Latin, Id be confused with the tian. Likewise the reverse. BTW, for example, are all english words. OBGYN takes one English word shortens it. The appstrophy in didn't is correctly placed and english appropriate.

Meanwhile, X does not mean Christ. If someone wants to abbreviate Christ, they can say Xtus. Xtian IS a made up abbr. Abbr. arent made up.
Alas, abbreviations lack strict regulation, & will have inconsistent constructions.
We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean.
So we're stuck with language that's a mish mash.

One I hate is the spoken abbreviation for "obstetrics & gynocology".
Instead of the more proper "OG", people spell out the first couple letters of each word, "o b g y n".
How dumb is that?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Xtian is an incorrect abbreviation.
Of course....."Xian" is the preferred abbreviation.
If I only only knew Latin, Id be confused with the tian. Likewise the reverse. BTW, for example, are all english words. OBGYN takes one English word shortens it. The appstrophy in didn't is correctly placed and english appropriate.
"Obgyn" is actually an abbreviation for 3 different words (including "and").
What grinds my gears is that people then partially spell out the words.
That is very non standard.
Meanwhile, X does not mean Christ. If someone wants to abbreviate Christ, they can say Xtus. Xtian IS a made up abbr. Abbr. arent made up.
Abbreviations are made up.
Some become commonplace, even if they're of non-standard construction.
For example, "Xmas" has a long history....
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And regarding "X" for "Christ"......
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Of course....."Xian" is the preferred abbreviation.

"Obgyn" is actually an abbreviation for 3 different words (including "and").
What grinds my gears is that people then partially spell out the words.
That is very non standard.

Abbreviations are made up.
Some become commonplace, even if they're of non-standard construction.
For example, "Xmas" has a long history....
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And regarding "X" for "Christ"......
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That contradicts what you said here "We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean."

Abbreviations are just that, shortened words or phrases. If I did not know that X is "half" of the word christ, I would be confused. If I did not know what abbr. were, Id be confused why Christ's name is not spelled out as Christ. Or use Xtoc, 'mas, or 'tian as an abbr.

If I used AbRe for abbreviate and I dont explain it, how would you know what Im talking about. Use one language in abb. Not two or more.

abbreviare (latin)

Also, knowing the history doesnt make the combination correct as an abbr. in english definition. If it wasnt religious in nature, it would puzzle me. Since people who use X is cutting Christ name short, its direspectful to who christians claim Him to be. I wouldnt use Jesus X. Abbr. is fine as long as 1. there is mutu understanding to where 2. it makes and not made up. We all know what people mean when they say Xtian. So its not a problem, just incorrect as an abbr., for christian and christmas.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That contradicts what you said here "We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean."
What is contradictory?
Abbreviations are just that, shortened words or phrases. If I did not know that X is "half" of the word christ, I would be confused. If I did not know what abbr. were, Id be confused why Christ's name is not spelled out as Christ. Or use Xtoc, 'mas, or 'tian as an abbr.
Some people will be confused at times.
But I favor abbreviations which have generally known meanings.
If I used AbRe for abbreviate and I dont explain it, how would you know what Im talking about. Use one language in abb. Not two or more.
abbreviare (latin)
One can always propose new abbreviations for words.
I'll see what comes into common usage before adopting it.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Do you at understand what i am saying?
Abbreviations are made up.

"We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer

I think you mean people can make up abbr. as long as it is commonly used?

Why cant the abbr. for Christian be Xtus, 'tian, or 'mas? Most american abbr. formalwise are used correctly. BTW is all english. So if I put by the way and BTW beside each other, native or fluent english speakers would get the connection.

Lt. And st., the L, T, S are used in the words they abbr.

The abbreviated word Abb. Uses the period to mark it as the first few letters of the shortened word.

Same with RPG ane the word Don't all have a pattern tonit. It is also all in English or an English (accepted as English word) word.

However, Xtian is neither of these. It does not have a ' as in 'tian. It does not have a Ch'stian. It doesnt even do this CTN. Its two languages put together. And the latin one is cut for just a letter that, in itself, does not mean Christ.

Its not the abbrev. There are formal ways to abbr. the words Christian and Christmas. Informally, it just looks off. It doesnt make sense and it is made up abbr. that is commonly accepted.

When a Jew says G-d they are using correct abbr. If they said GDd, Id be a little confused. Its not proper or well understood unless explained.

deus (latin)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you at understand what i am saying?
I think so.
I think you mean people can make up abbr. as long as it is commonly used?
Certainly, every common abbreviation was made up by someone at some point in time.
Then they became popular.
Why cant the abbr. for Christian be Xtus, 'tian, or 'mas? Most american abbr. formalwise are used correctly. BTW is all english. So if I put by the way and BTW beside each other, native or fluent english speakers would get the connection.
Perhaps you can popularize them.
But until then, they wouldn't be recognized by us common folk.
Lt. And st., the L, T, S are used in the words they abbr.
The abbreviated word Abb. Uses the period to mark it as the first few letters of the shortened word.
Same with RPG ane the word Don't all have a pattern tonit. It is also all in English or an English (accepted as English word) word.
However, Xtian is neither of these. It does not have a ' as in 'tian. It does not have a Ch'stian. It doesnt even do this CTN. Its two languages put together. And the latin one is cut for just a letter that, in itself, does not mean Christ.
Its not the abbrev. There are formal ways to abbr. the words Christian and Christmas. Informally, it just looks off. It doesnt make sense and it is made up abbr. that is commonly accepted.
When a Jew says G-d they are using correct abbr. If they said GDd, Id be a little confused. Its not proper or well understood unless explained.
deus (latin)
Again, I prefer "Xian" to "Xtian".
It's shorter & understood.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I understand as a preference. Generally speaking, its incorrect and personally, I fins it insulting Christ name.

Other than that, people can choose what they feel is appropriate. No big deal outside of RF

I think so.

Certainly, every common abbreviation was made up by someone at some point in time.
Then they became popular.

Perhaps you can popularize them.
But until then, they wouldn't be recognized by us common folk.

Again, I prefer "Xian" to "Xtian".
It's shorter & understood.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I understand as a preference. Generally speaking, its incorrect and personally, I fins it insulting Christ name.
Other than that, people can choose what they feel is appropriate. No big deal outside of RF
If enuf people find it insulting, RF might even include it with other banned words.
(Note: The banned word function isn't working with this new platform.)
Why do you find it insulting?
 
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