rohit60221023
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I broke that vow. What shoud i do?i watched porn...
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I broke a vow to shiv ji that i will be a true celibate,
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rohit60221023
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And masturbated 4 times
Well, those of us who grew up and live in a modern western county don't really understand your issue from your perspective. I think you would be best served by wise people that understand all this from your cultural environment. Vows to shiv ji is not something I understand but I would like to understand your thinking a little more because I am truly interested.
As a westerner I would to tend to wonder 'why' you made a vow of chastity as you did to shiv ji (I am asking not in a challenging way but in a curious way). Or even why you make vows to deities? What is your expectation for this vow.
But one thing I can say for sure is we can't change the past so move on from here. I don't see the big deal but that may just be my cultural perspective talking.
My questions to you would be 1.) why did you make the vow in the first place and 2.) what do you believe Shiva feels about it?
I'm under vows too, but I believe vows are intended for us (as well as made by us) and to aid us in our spiritual journeys. I believe God truly knows what is in our hearts and understands when we mess up.
I'm under vows too, but I believe vows are intended for us (as well as made by us) and to aid us in our spiritual journeys. I believe God truly knows what is in our hearts and understands when we mess up.
So a vow is like a structure. Self-fulfilling prophecy kind of thing.
Feeling bad about breaking it, feeling guilt, isn't helpful. Be kind to yourself. So it happened. That's fine. Now you are in more control to keep it off next time.
If you must masturbate sometimes, avoid porn, and if you can, avoid thinking sexual thoughts.
Phasing out can be better than cold turkey.
Shiva will hold nothing against you. The judgement on yourself is only coming from you.
Feeling bad about breaking it, feeling guilt, isn't helpful. Be kind to yourself. So it happened. That's fine. Now you are in more control to keep it off next time.
If you must masturbate sometimes, avoid porn, and if you can, avoid thinking sexual thoughts.
Phasing out can be better than cold turkey.
Shiva will hold nothing against you. The judgement on yourself is only coming from you.
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These are my feelings on the subject of celibacy. Just my ideas. Not pushing them off on anybody.
I was told by a Swami that sannyas is for folks that don't feel strong sexual desire when the opposite sex is not around. I live in a monastery for 8 months when I was a young man. It became clear, very clear, that I was thinking about sex way to much for a celibate. So I figured out that I just could not do It in a mentally healthy way. So I got married. Much better choice for me. Now later in life my desires are now much less and it is a realistic option for me. This is why the rishis taught the ashrams of life. For most of us this is a much better option. Sex is not a sin just something you set aside to better dedicate your life to the goal of realization. If this is a option for you. It's nice path. If not the path of being a householder leads to the same goal.
I was told by a Swami that sannyas is for folks that don't feel strong sexual desire when the opposite sex is not around. I live in a monastery for 8 months when I was a young man. It became clear, very clear, that I was thinking about sex way to much for a celibate. So I figured out that I just could not do It in a mentally healthy way. So I got married. Much better choice for me. Now later in life my desires are now much less and it is a realistic option for me. This is why the rishis taught the ashrams of life. For most of us this is a much better option. Sex is not a sin just something you set aside to better dedicate your life to the goal of realization. If this is a option for you. It's nice path. If not the path of being a householder leads to the same goal.
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You should keep you vows to Shiva.
But you will be ok, as long as your intentions are to try your best in the future to (1) only take a vow if you are serious, and (2) try your ever best to keep your promises ... they are your honor actually.
As far as penance, I think you should drink 1/3 of a cup of your own urine after boiling it for 2 minutes. Seriously. But I can't tell you what to do. But that penance would do the trick.
But you will be ok, as long as your intentions are to try your best in the future to (1) only take a vow if you are serious, and (2) try your ever best to keep your promises ... they are your honor actually.
As far as penance, I think you should drink 1/3 of a cup of your own urine after boiling it for 2 minutes. Seriously. But I can't tell you what to do. But that penance would do the trick.
Also, I have a saying for you.
Everything will be alright in the end. If it isn't, you haven't gotten to the end, yet.
Please drink your own urine as per above. Everything will be alright.
UODATE: Keep in mind this isn't a direct order from Shiv. But this is a method that will work to change yiur ways and reinforce keeping vows. In fact, you should drink your own urine four times. Bless you.
Everything will be alright in the end. If it isn't, you haven't gotten to the end, yet.
Please drink your own urine as per above. Everything will be alright.
UODATE: Keep in mind this isn't a direct order from Shiv. But this is a method that will work to change yiur ways and reinforce keeping vows. In fact, you should drink your own urine four times. Bless you.
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