dust1n
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Jesus told us who will come to Heaven with him. (Christians only)
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Because God is not limited by time he knows if he would chose to know one before they are even born.
(1 Corinthians 8:3) “But someone who loves God is known by God.”
And those who love God is described in the following scripture.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
dust1n
Zindīq
Well, I can't really inquire further because this is for Christians only.
Remember human logic does not come close to enable him or her to understand God.
Jesus once told me, and he did this audibly. He told me to stop trying to figure him out and just follow him.
Jesus over the last forty years has performed miracles so unreal in my life that there is no explanation how they could be done.
Those miracles defied all of man’s understanding of physics.
dust1n
Zindīq
Welp, he hasn't told me anything yet, so I'm gonna keep trying. In the meantime my ears are in working condition, so I'll be anticipating his miracle doing in my life any moment while I slump around the non-Christians Only section of RF.
Jesus said he would call his own out by name. All anyone can do is pray that God considers him or her to be one of his.
(John 10:1-5) “'In all truth I tell you, anyone who does not enter the sheepfold through the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a bandit. He who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the flock; the gatekeeper lets him in, the sheep hear his voice, one by one he calls his own sheep and leads them out. When he has brought out all those that are his, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow because they know his voice. They will never follow a stranger, but will run away from him because they do not recognize the voice of strangers.'”
(John 10:14-16) “I am the good shepherd; I know my own and my own know me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for my sheep. And there are other sheep I have that are not of this fold, and these I have to lead as well. They too will listen to my voice, and there will be only one flock, and one shepherd.
(Matthew 13:10-15) “Then the disciples went up to him and asked, 'Why do you talk to them in parables?' In answer, he said, 'Because to you is granted to understand the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not granted. Anyone who has will be given more and will have more than enough; but anyone who has not will be deprived even of what he has. The reason I talk to them in parables is that they look without seeing and listen without hearing or understanding. So in their case what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah is being fulfilled: Listen and listen, but never understand! Look and look, but never perceive! This people's heart has grown coarse, their ears dulled, they have shut their eyes tight to avoid using their eyes to see, their ears to hear, their heart to understand, changing their ways and being healed by me.”
I see Muslims and Christian believe of jesus .
Muslim said we believe in jesus ,he will come to earth to kill antichrist (illuminate) , jesus is not christ non crucified and its mentioned in their book (the holy Qura'an) .
Christian said jesus is crucified but the holy Bible didn't mention that !!
Can someone answer me or argue thanks.
Muslim said we believe in jesus ,he will come to earth to kill antichrist (illuminate) , jesus is not christ non crucified and its mentioned in their book (the holy Qura'an) .
Christian said jesus is crucified but the holy Bible didn't mention that !!
Can someone answer me or argue thanks.
Believing of Jesus, and believing in Jesus are two different things.
When John says one is believing in Jesus, he is saying that one needs to be in Jesus to believe.
You need to read what John says about being in Jesus, or Jesus being in him or her.
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
John says this is how we know we are in him. One who sin can’t believe in Jesus, because they are not living as Jesus lived.
(1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”
Here John says God is in one who does not sin. So Children of God are in God, and God is in them.
(1 John 3: 5 - 6) “Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.”
Here John says if one sins they don’t even know God. One can’t believe in someone they do not even know.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
Jesus told us what one needs to do to have God be in them. Keeping God’s Word includes not sinning.
The reason my argument does not make sense to most people, is because to understand God’s Word and come to know God his or her teacher needs to be God.
(1 Corinthians 2:10-13) “These are the very things that God has revealed to us through the Spirit, for the Spirit reaches the depts. Of everything, even the depths of God. After all, the depths of a man can only be known by his own spirit, not by any other man, and in the same way the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit of God”
My brother if you believe in or of something you believe. i meant by my question both christian and Muslim are believing in Jesus so Muslim said jesus is a messenger and they have many proves and christian said jesus is god and the holy spirit is god and the father is god but they are not three god they are one god please sir explain it to me because I'm so confused i want to know the truth way to commit it
You can never come to understand God. One can come to know God, but a human mind can never understand God.
Also one can’t come to know God through the witness of another human.
Humans are a creation of God’s. Humans are to serve God.
Let us compare human’s love for a pet, to God’s love toward humans. Let us say a pet dog.
Humans love their dogs, but if the dog does not obey and is not loving to his human master, then that dog is gotten rid of.
A dog can never come to understand his human master.
To come to know God one has to have God teach him or her.
(1 Corinthians 2:10-13) “These are the very things that God has revealed to us through the Spirit, for the Spirit reaches the depts. Of everything, even the depths of God. After all, the depths of a man can only be known by his own spirit, not by any other man, and in the same way the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit of God”
Humans can’t understand how God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one.
Jesus told me he is God, and I believe him.
Jesus said if one sees him then they have also seen the Father, again I believe Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
(John 14: 8-10) “Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and then we shall be satisfied.' Jesus said to him,'Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? 'Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, "Show us the Father"? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I say to you I do not speak of my own accord: it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his works.”
I'm so happy that jesus told you that he is the god but how come three god be one god i really want a real answer. can you answer this question is it possible three persons become one person brother god give us brain to think and wonder so i read holy Qur'an and i read holy bible its so clear man that Qur'an is the god's word.
lostwanderingsoul
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the word "God" is similar to the word "family". you can have one family but several people in that family. there is only one "God" but that "God" has more than one member. just one God but more than one "person" just your family is just one family but may have parents and children
Believe me my brother i want well-being and benevolence and happiness for everyone i'm not bad guy or religious man i'm a normal guy who wants happiness in this life and after life no one will go to hell if he knows what is the truth and follow it and God will not ask us about believing witness . Muslims don't need witnesses but they need to read more about their religion and thats it .
So you choose to believe in a book written by the devil?
The devil knows Jesus is God but the devil is a liar, and will tell everyone who will listen that Jesus is not God.