Marijuana increases cortisol level - stunts growth in boys

sun rise · May 19, 2015

Ingledsva said:
Don't you find it interesting that negative studies like this always come out when weed is making legal strides?

I know lots of people that came out of the Hippy era, that smoke to this day, - and they aren't stunted in any way.

A Harvard Medical School study actually found that people who smoked a lot of weed early in their lives - had less dementia and Alzheimer's in their old age.

Obviously it also helps with a lot of medical conditions - including seizures in children.

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These negative studies have been coming out for quite some time now. And having come out of the hippy era myself, my drug use started when I was in my 20's and ended a few years later - way after puberty.

And, of course, just because because a drug, any drug, can be useful for medical conditions, it does not mean that the drug is harmless nor that large does cause problems.

Iti oj · May 19, 2015

sunrise123 said:
These negative studies have been coming out for quite some time now. And having come out of the hippy era myself, my drug use started when I was in my 20's and ended a few years later - way after puberty.

And, of course, just because because a drug, any drug, can be useful for medical conditions, it does not mean that the drug is harmless nor that large does cause problems.

mildly dangerous at best. A lot safer then thousands of other products.

Ingledsva · May 19, 2015

sunrise123 said:
These negative studies have been coming out for quite some time now. And having come out of the hippy era myself, my drug use started when I was in my 20's and ended a few years later - way after puberty.

And, of course, just because because a drug, any drug, can be useful for medical conditions, it does not mean that the drug is harmless nor that large does cause problems.

It has already been proven to be less harmful then most of the drugs out there - including over the counter drugs like aspirin.

It also helps many medical conditions - without the crap from the prescribed drugs, - you know - think of those commercials.

"Have hay fever? No more! Try Fevergone. Your head may explode, you will get cancer, have leaky poop, urine incontinence, flatulence, your toes will fall off, and you will have suicidal thoughts. But you won't have Hay fever, Give us a try."

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Shadow Wolf · May 19, 2015

sunrise123 said:
And, of course, just because because a drug, any drug, can be useful for medical conditions, it does not mean that the drug is harmless nor that large does cause problems.

That is true, but there are just too many high-profile mega-tokers smoking some very high potency grass to think marijuana is a great risk or concern.

Iti oj · May 19, 2015

im actually trying to think of a substance safer then cannabis, which is its real name. Did you know that? Marijuana is slang and mildly derogatory.

sun rise · May 20, 2015

Iti oj said:
im actually trying to think of a substance safer then cannabis, which is its real name. Did you know that? Marijuana is slang and mildly derogatory.

You're ignoring all the studies showing negative effects which I also did when I smoked it.

Iti oj · May 21, 2015

sunrise123 said:
You're ignoring all the studies showing negative effects which I also did when I smoked it.

No I'm dismissing them as trivial(which they are) in danger and still I ask you to name a safer substance.

Shadow Wolf · May 21, 2015

Iti oj said:
No I'm dismissing them as trivial(which they are) in danger and still I ask you to name a safer substance.

I can dig up a couple of cases which involve death by hyperhydration.
I have yet to see even a single fatal overdose from pot.

Iti oj · May 21, 2015

Shadow Wolf said:
I can dig up a couple of cases which involve death by hyperhydration.
I have yet to see even a single fatal overdose from pot.

That was going to be my point. How about oxygen poisoning.

Iti oj · May 21, 2015

Ohh spinach is full of dangerous oxalic acid

sun rise · May 24, 2015

Iti oj said:
No I'm dismissing them as trivial(which they are) in danger and still I ask you to name a safer substance.

"Substance" - a gazillion.
Water. Tea Coffee. Apple juice. Ginseng. Turmeric. - You get the point.

Marijuana is far more dangerous than compazine, tigan, metaclopramide, zofran, kytril [legal anti-emetics] to name a few." Is Medical Marijuana More Dangerous Than Legal Drugs? - Medical Marijuana - ProCon.org

And heart disease is trivial to you? And "Cannabis use was identified as a trigger for ischemic stroke, third only to tobacco smoking and cocaine use"
The Truth About Marijuana: Health Risks Trivialized

And changes in the structure of the brain is trivial Marijuana Use Linked to Changes in the Brain

dgirl1986 · May 24, 2015

Everything in moderation.

Shadow Wolf · May 24, 2015

sunrise123 said:
"Substance" - a gazillion.
Water. Tea Coffee. Apple juice. Ginseng. Turmeric. - You get the point.

Hyperhydration kills. Caffiene causes cardiovascular problems. Apple juice can cause diarrhea.
As for legal drugs; alcohol and tobacco kill nearly a half-million people a year (the vast majority of that comes from tobacco alone), and they destroy internal organs. Prescription drugs come with the risk of many side-effects, and many of them cause addiction, health problems, and death. Even Tylenol comes with the very real risk of organ damage and deadly overdoses. Even cough syrup can be destructive and deadly from an overdose.
Marijuana, however, does not have a single case of a fatal overdose, it has the potential to be used to treat a number of different ailments, and at the chemical level it doesn't have any addictive properties.
And circumventing medical standards? Where is the concern over the safety when it comes to opioid medications? These have caused far more problems that pot has.

Shadow Wolf · May 24, 2015

Georgia teen Zyrees Oliver dies from drinking too much water, Gatorade - CBS News
DOUGLASVILLE, Ga. -- A Georgia high school football player is dead after drinking too much fluid during practice.
Pot, on the other hand:
Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Kill
It's been feared that marijuana smoke, like tobacco smoke, causescancer and heart disease. The evidence argues otherwise, writes Stephen Sidney, MD, associate director for research for Kaiser Permanente, Oakland, Calif., in the Sept 20 issue of The British Medical Journal.

Ingledsva · May 24, 2015

Iti oj said:
im actually trying to think of a substance safer then cannabis, which is its real name. Did you know that? Marijuana is slang and mildly derogatory.

I did know that.

Did you know it was used by the Hebrew Priests, under it's ancient Hebrew name - Kaneh -Bosem.

Interesting that is almost the same name today.

Sula Benet, an etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences wrote a treatise, "Tracing One Word Through Different Languages." This was a study on the word Cannabis, based on a study of the oldest Hebrew texts. Although the word cannabis was thought to be of Scythian origin, Benet's research showed it had an earlier root in the Semitic Languages such as Hebrew. Benet demonstrated that the ancient Hebrew word for Cannabis is Kaneh -Bosem.

The priest are instructed to use it in the Temple -

it is mentioned 5 times, and the first is Exodus 30:23. Other hallucinogens were also used by the Hebrew.

Exo 30:23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus (actually Kaneh -Bosem) two hundred and fifty shekels,

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ShivaFan · May 24, 2015

Look it, I am not about to jump on the wagon to throw pot smokers in prison. But I am convinced the negatives notably out way the positives. Cancer is in your future and I do think if abused it will stunt your little brain as it is, and for most brains who are not in the mystic, a brain stuck on silly with material attachments.

If there are any positive medical components, it is not too difficult to simply isolate those components, harvest them, let them be applied but WITHOUT any of the effects that an addict or user seeks to "get high", you don't have to smoke it or injest raw plant fibers, it can be put into another form, applied for medical reasons, no "high".

There are some renunciates who are under instruction of strict guidelines by traditional teachers who can use ganja for spiritual purpose. They can also use cobra venom, tanks of buffalo milk, starvation and austerities and so on. Some even purpusely die then come back to life, and so on. I wouldn't recommend that for sk8terboy. That isn't for some idiot on a skateboard who eats a lot of skiddles and stunks their growth and gets in fights in the lobby of a McDonalds.

There are some folks who can fly jets. But not a lot. Nor should they be allowed in the cockpit. They are just going to end up killing themselves and others.

Ingledsva · May 24, 2015

ShivaFan said:
Look it, I am not about to jump on the wagon to throw pot smokers in prison. But I am convinced the negatives notably out way the positives. Cancer is in your future and I do think if abused it will stunt your little brain as it is, and for most brains who are not in the mystic, a brain stuck on silly with material attachments.

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The negatives obviously DO NOT outweigh the positives.

If we were to compare it's "negatives" to the majority of your other medications, - both prescription and over the counter, - like Aspirin -

You would have to throw away ALL your prescribed medications, and the Aspirin, and other over the counter medications, - before the Weed.

You do not have to smoke weed. You can make butter, and put it in foods like candies, brownies, etc.

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Shadow Wolf · May 24, 2015

I don't get why medicine has to come in a form that was prepared in a lab. Many things we call "medicine" are synthesized natural things that, in many cases, have been used medicinally long before we had the ability to synthesize them in a lab.

Wannabe Yogi.. · May 25, 2015

dust1n said:
Scientists at the Pir Mehr Ali Shah Agriculture University Rawalpindi in Pakistan studied the levels of certain hormones involved in growth and puberty in the blood of 220 non-smoking and 217 marijuana-addicted boys. Levels of puberty-related hormones such as testosterone and luteinising hormone (LH) were increased in the marijuana smokers. In contrast, growth hormone levels were decreased in this group. It was also found that non-smoking boys were on average 4 kg heavier and 4.6 inches taller by the age of 20 than the marijuana smokers.
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This is the problem with Pot studies. How much Pot are these young Pakistani boys smoking. We could only guess. I bet it is way to much. Kind of like studying people who drink a 6 pack a day. Of course it is bad for you.

Ingledsva · May 25, 2015

Shadow Wolf said:
I don't get why medicine has to come in a form that was prepared in a lab. Many things we call "medicine" are synthesized natural things that, in many cases, have been used medicinally long before we had the ability to synthesize them in a lab.

Yep, and the reason they make a synthetic product, rather then use the natural, is so they can get a patent and make millions/billions on sick people.

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