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No, most Christians believe that the Bible teaches the Trinity. The JW's have a different view from most Christians and from Mormons.
Then why do you apply the label 'christian' to yourselves?
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No, most Christians believe that the Bible teaches the Trinity. The JW's have a different view from most Christians and from Mormons.
Scripture quoting atheists, aren't there laws against such nonsense. And no the concept of the Trinity as taught by the catholic church is NOT in the Bible.
Yeah, awfully confusing.I agree that in one sense the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three Gods. The term God can be applied to them individually or collectively. The Book of Abraham reference is the only place in scripture, of which I am aware, where they are referred to as "Gods". This is not a contradiction of the other scriptures which name them as one God or Godhead. I consider the Abrahamic reference to be quite instructive as it teaches that while the Father and Son are "one in purpose and unity", they are literally three separate beings, each of which can be called God.
Then why do you apply the label 'christian' to yourselves?
Yeah, awfully confusing.
We absolutely believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, our Redeemer, and our Savior. Our belief in the Godhead accentuates, rather than diminishes that belief. The Book of Mormon declares itself as a witness that Jesus is the Christ. All that we believe revolves around that core belief. The Savior is so incredibly important in our doctrine and in our personal lives, that yes we very much Christian.
Yeah, awfully confusing.
- "The Father is God"
- "The Son is God"
- "The Holy Spirit is God"
- "God is the Father"
- "God is the Son"
- "God is the Holy Spirit"
- "The Father is not the Son"
- "The Father is not the Holy Spirit"
- "The Son is not the Father"
- "The Son is not the Holy Spirit"
- "The Holy Spirit is not the Father"
- "The Holy Spirit is not the Son"
Mormons believe Adam was also involved in creating the Earth. This was before he was put in the Garden of Eden. He was called Michael then.1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Where does it say in the bible that Jesus built the earth?
Would Christians concur with Christithis view?
I will accept that their Jesus and my Jesus is the same person.
Mormons believe Adam was also involved in creating the Earth. This was before he was put in the Garden of Eden. He was called Michael then.
Michael did help create the world did he not?Mormons believe that every human being ever born into the world, lived with God before we came here. None of us, including Adam (or Michael) were Gods.
Mormons believe that every human being ever born into the world, lived with God before we came here. None of us, including Adam (or Michael) were Gods.
I don't know which Christians will accept what. Clearly, there are doctrinal differences between Mormons and other Christians. But there are differences between all Christian denomination. My point is that I accept others as Christians, even if I don't accept all that they believe. The belief that Jesus is the Son of God is my yardstick for being a Christian.
Michael did help create the world did he not?
Do you believe that the majority of christians would accept that view?
Yeah, I fixed it.It's not confusing to me. "God" can refer to the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost individually. Or it can refer to them collectively. I think your chart is an explanation of the Trinity and not Mormon doctrine.
1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.[/quote}So what? Mormons believe they are one, too. It's the way in which they are one that is the issue here.
John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."Where does it say in the bible that Jesus built the earth?
"The Word" is most definitely Jesus Christ. He existed from the beginning, was with God in the beginning and was himself God in the beginning. He created everything.
Ephesians 3:8-9 "Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ..."
God the Father created all things by the hand of His Son.
Colossians 1:12-16 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him..."
It is the Father's "dear Son" who created all things that are in heaven and in earth.
I actually have no idea where you're coming from.Yeah, I fixed it.
What did you expect from a criminally insane con-man?