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woman in a face veil?

psychoslice

Veteran Member
That comment always make lol..I think we wear it because you can't handle our beauty.

Muslimwomen who wear it are just like other women..you have those who are beautiful and others who aren't.there are those who are into fashion and others who aren't.

btw beauty is in the eyes of the beholder whats beautiful to you may be ugly to me.
Yes I agree, but what I have seen looking at these women, they seem to be ugly.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I find it disturbing, honestly. Aside from the negative cultural concepts of sexuality and modesty that the practice is grounded in, it makes it near-impossible to "read" a person with their face covered. So it makes social interaction very difficult.
 
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Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I'm Muslim and when I see a niqabi women, the first impression I get is that she's intentionally being modest and respectful. I can't but look away and down (with respect) simply because she does not want to attract attention to her. It sends the kind of fear you get from respecting those of high stature and dignity. I know the intentions are what count, but first impressions are based on something and if she really wears it out of intended modesty and fully believing in what it is there for, I say that my feelings are in place. It also matters that she does it out of free choice. Otherwise it would not be done for what it was intended for.

No debate here, it is what I feel.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Hi :)

I wear the niqab..face veil and only the eyes are visible. I've noticed people staring (and I can understand and don't feel offended). But I always wonder what they are thinking.

So

What do you think when you see a woman in a face veil?

And feel free to ask any questions related to the the face veil
Honestly... I don't know. Not against it, mind you, it just seems a bit too "held back". And also, there are some prejudice, like "maybe she's a fanatic" or "maybe she is forced" or something. But I'm try to not listen to that voice, since I don't like judging people without talking to them first. I guess that has more to do with me then anything, due to the culture I've grown up in and so on.

I just hope I don't stare.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
I'm not forced to wear it by family.the first time I wore it my mother and father were against it.they were afraid people would be hostile towards me.
I don't think it's obligatory so I don't feel any pressure to wear it but I chose to wear it.

I had an appointment at the hospital and I was alone with a female nurse so I removed my face veil and she said 'its a shame you have to hide your pretty face'..I explained I don't have to..and the most important people in my life (family)can still see my face :)
If it's out of free will it's great :).

And it's sad that I felt the need to say that, lol.
 

Starjade

Member
Personally, I find it offensive. Those who wear it are making a very strong statement that they do not wish to be part of British society: so why are they here?

And of course, there is no justification for it in the Quran, or the Hadith. You don't see it worn by Shia Muslims. As for the Sunni, the Al-Azhar University has issued a fatwa describing it as a local custom and not part of Islam. I therefore associate it with Wahhabi or Salafi teaching, which makes it all the more disturbing. Seeing it in the streets of London, thankfully very rarely, is like seeing someone with label expressing support for Al-Qaida or Da'ish.

While I agree with your point I also understand the reasoning behind why women should cover themselves up. Many women here in Britain and other places do dress like whores leaving nothing to the imagination. When males see them there is only one thing on their minds. Of course this form of clothing is an Islamic garment and an ID and statement of the rules of Islam a religion that does treat women as cattle so their males think they should be covered up until they are put up for sale and become another mans problem. After all they do not want those attentions to their females as western women get from male populations. Is it for decency religion or some other agenda.?

Clearly if souls wearing such outfits come to Britain they do so to become a part of that community and society. If I went to Arabia I would still be in jeans as this is what I am used to wearing. It is not a matter of conforming it is simply a dress sense I am used to wearing. So tolerance should be acceptable on both sides. People are always going to wear what they feel comfortable to be wearing and what another wears is their business not anyone elses unless it infringes upon personnel freedom or security and let us not forget decency.

Nudists feel a right to wear birthday suits. But whiles they have such an entitlement that does not mean society should tolerate such freedom and allow such a form to be sitting amongst their children. So where do you draw the line. In the end it all comes down to a matter of dressing decently.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
When i see one wearing veil, i think: It will be so difficult for my sister to find job! I gues most know they wont be able to find jobs where face is needed after wearing niqab.. But i respect their choice.
However i would reject it if she is forced by her father or dad.

On personal level i would advise my wife not to wear niqab, but to wear as the prophet pbuh said: cover your body except hands and face.
I would respect the choice of my sister/mom/wife to wear niqab, but ofcourse i tell her according to quran and hadith hijab(All covered except face and hands) is sufficient.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I agree with keeping my culture and beliefs but finding a new one at the same time.I may be a conservative Muslim in dress and beliefs. But to the east African/arab elders in my family I'm more western then east African/Arab. They are referring to language,opinions etc.

I get it. I come from a mixed background, with one firmly planted in each. But having been born and raised in Australia I am considered far more Western than Indian.
 

Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and opinions :) .its quite interesting..because I do see some people who stare and I can see they want to ask me about the face veil but are hesitant to do so. So its interesting to know what ppl are actually thinking when they see me.

For those who have negative views I respect your opinion..it is something foreign here in the west so I can't expect you to be supportive or happy. What matters is that we can stay respectful towards each other
 
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Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
When i see one wearing veil, i think: It will be so difficult for my sister to find job! I gues most know they wont be able to find jobs where face is needed after wearing niqab.. But i respect their choice.
However i would reject it if she is forced by her father or dad.

On personal level i would advise my wife not to wear niqab, but to wear as the prophet pbuh said: cover your body except hands and face.
I would respect the choice of my sister/mom/wife to wear niqab, but ofcourse i tell her according to quran and hadith hijab(All covered except face and hands) is sufficient.

It depends on where you live..in the UK its not difficult to find a job or study wearing a face veil.I have a job and quite a few sisters wearing the niqab have jobs.
 

Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
Yes I agree, but what I have seen looking at these women, they seem to be ugly.

Cool..So you have some superpower to look through the face veil and based on your superpowers you made the conclusion that women under the face veil are ugly..interesting

Again Muslim women are diverse..I know women from different backgrounds who wear the niqab..I know veiled sisters who are southamerican,Dutch,Swedish,Arab,pakistani,English,polish, west African,spanish,Malaysian,Ethiopian,Somali, american. So these are just about 13 or so friends in my community.
 
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Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
@MuslimaInBlack what is your source and what made u wear niqab?

Just interested to know why Niqabi sisters choose for that when we have hadiths and quran about regular veil(Full Hijaab).


I also belief that the niqab isnt a must..its mustahab(recommended). I started wearing at as a sunnah..an extra deed to get closer to Allah. For example the 5 daily prayers are compulsory but the extra prayers aren't..but doing those extra prayers will strengthen your iman and causes you to get stronger spiritually. Even though niqab is something physical if you do it with the correct intention it becomes spiritual as well.

Most sisters i know who wear the face veil do it for that reason.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Hi :)

I wear the niqab..face veil and only the eyes are visible. I've noticed people staring (and I can understand and don't feel offended). But I always wonder what they are thinking.

So

What do you think when you see a woman in a face veil?

And feel free to ask any questions related to the the face veil

I don't really support the face veil, hijab is nice, but if a woman feels comfortable in wearing the face veil then that will be OK, but if forced then that will be awful.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
I also belief that the niqab isnt a must..its mustahab(recommended). I started wearing at as a sunnah..an extra deed to get closer to Allah. For example the 5 daily prayers are compulsory but the extra prayers aren't..but doing those extra prayers will strengthen your iman and causes you to get stronger spiritually. Even though niqab is something physical if you do it with the correct intention it becomes spiritual as well.

Most sisters i know who wear the face veil do it for that reason.



Hijabis can also get closer to Allah by doing prayers and duas.
What i meant was do u have hadith which suggest Niqab is Bonus.
For examples Burka sisters can say the same, no one sees their eyes.

Thanks for the answer.
 

Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
Hijabis can also get closer to Allah by doing prayers and duas.
What i meant was do u have hadith which suggest Niqab is Bonus.
For examples Burka sisters can say the same, no one sees their eyes.

Thanks for the answer.

Yes there are saheeh ahadith mentioning that the female companions from the muhaajiriin and ansaar used to cover everything except one eye. Bsed on those ahadith the scholars say its a sunnah..I'm using my mobile so I'll post the ahadith later insha allah.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I believe that the part of Quran 33:59 that says to bring down over themselves of their outer garments could include both niqab and burgaa. Even if it doesn't, we as Muslims believe that God accepts our actions by their intentions if they were good.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I believe that the part of Quran 33:59 that says to bring down over themselves of their outer garments could include both niqab and burgaa. Even if it doesn't, we as Muslims believe that God accepts our actions by their intentions if they were good.

The verse says ((يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاءِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰ أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا))

O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognized and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

The purpose of hiding their faces at that time is to protect them from the disbelievers who were in a war with Muslims and were looking to kidnap and hurt some of their women.
 

"Born Eunuch"

Anonymous American Black Male
If it's out of free will it's great :).

And it's sad that I felt the need to say that, lol.

Strangely about "liberating people," as I've heard America's "attacks" on the Muslim world described as, I wonder where does it end? Does America have to go into every country on earth and make it into what they (we) think it should be?

There's a verse in the Qur'an that talks about confining certain women to their homes...if we Americans see that as wrong behavior, is it for us to go in and change their behavior?

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Starjade

Member
Now there is a justifiable reason for the Veil. Lets get all the real ugly people to wear the veils and ring a bell. :) Kinder than a bag over their heads and I suspect they might not mind. :)
 
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