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How do modern Jews feel about the Jewish Temple?

ZooGirl02

ZooGirl02

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Hello everyone. How do modern Jews feel about the Jewish Temple? From what I understand, there were two Temples, one which was constructed by King David and another that was built by the Romans for the Jewish people of ancient Israel. However, the second Temple was destroyed. So, what or how do modern Jews feel about the Temple? Do they wish to see it rebuilt someday? Are there any Jewish beliefs that it will be rebuilt? Also, do Jewish people believe that the ancient Temple was in the same location as the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Thank you in advance for your time and for your answers. I hope that all of my questions came across as respectful. They were intended in that way.
 
dantech

dantech

Well-Known Member
ZooGirl02 said:
Hello everyone. How do modern Jews feel about the Jewish Temple? From what I understand, there were two Temples, one which was constructed by King David and another that was built by the Romans for the Jewish people of ancient Israel. However, the second Temple was destroyed. So, what or how do modern Jews feel about the Temple? Do they wish to see it rebuilt someday? Are there any Jewish beliefs that it will be rebuilt? Also, do Jewish people believe that the ancient Temple was in the same location as the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Thank you in advance for your time and for your answers. I hope that all of my questions came across as respectful. They were intended in that way.
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There are many types of modern Jews, with many different opinions on the subjects. The orthodox, which probably don't qualify to most as modern do expect to it be rebuilt with the coming of the messiah.
The temple was standing on where the Dome of the Rock stands, yes.
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
ZooGirl02 said:
Oh. I apologize. I did not realize that. I thought that Herod had one built for the Jewish people.



Oh okay. That is interesting. Who are the Hashmonaim?
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The Second Temple was built under the auspices of Cyrus. He was the one who gave permission to build (although building stagnated for a while after that). After the Greeks ransacked it, it was rededicated by the Hasmoneans who were a group of Priests that fought against the Greeks. The Hasmoneans then began a monarchy for the next ~150 years.

As to your original question. Rebuilding of the Temple, called the Third Temple, is a part of Orthodox Jewish belief and a significant part of our daily prayers and blessings.
The Second Temple was located in approximately the same place as the Dome of the Rock.
 
Tarheeler

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
ZooGirl02 said:
Hello everyone. How do modern Jews feel about the Jewish Temple? From what I understand, there were two Temples, one which was constructed by King David and another that was built by the Romans for the Jewish people of ancient Israel. However, the second Temple was destroyed. So, what or how do modern Jews feel about the Temple? Do they wish to see it rebuilt someday? Are there any Jewish beliefs that it will be rebuilt? Also, do Jewish people believe that the ancient Temple was in the same location as the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Thank you in advance for your time and for your answers. I hope that all of my questions came across as respectful. They were intended in that way.
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The first Temple was built by Solomon, and the second was started by Cyrus and completed by Darius (both of Persia).
Herod repaired and expanded the Temple and its complex after the Roman's occupied the area.

The rebuilding of the Temple plays a central role in our prayer and liturgy, and it can only be rebuilt in the original spot; it is one of the things the messiah is prophesied to do.
As for individual Jews, most Orthodox and many (in my experience) Conservative Jews do believe that it be rebuilt during the messianic era.
 
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Akivah

Akivah

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The Third Temple will be rebuilt by or due to the future messiah. As the Temple is not currently rebuilt, that is one of the proofs that jesus is a false messiah. I look forward to its rebuilding. It will be a indication that humanity is moving into the Messianic Era, a time of world peace. The Temple is located at the same spot as the muslim dome of the rock, that's why the muslims built their shrine there. But once the Messianic Era comes, the muslims will cheerfully pull it down so that the Temple can be rebuilt there.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
As terrible as this may sound, the destruction of the Temples may have been a blessing in disguise.

When the 1st Temple was destroyed, it created a shift in our faith that went from heavy reliance on the sacrificial system to having a greater reliance on Torah, and we see an actual shift with the archaeology as literally over a thousand of "idols" are found in the area we occupied during the 1st Temple period versus none that has been found that date back to being made during the 2nd Temple period.

When the 2nd Temple was destroyed, we again drifted in the direction of putting even more emphasis on Torah, which eventually led to the writing down of the Talmud, and it's especially the ideas and the use of the Talmud that has had a profound influence on Judaism, and that includes even the various reform branches.

However, obviously the destruction of the Temples brought along many hardships, so these are hardly joyous occasions.
 
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Awoon

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I have a couple questions.

Will There be enough animals for animal sacrifice during the Messianic rule at the Temple?

Will the Arc of the Covenant be found and placed in The Holy of Holies, or a new one made?
 
Tarheeler

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
Awoon said:
Will There be enough animals for animal sacrifice during the Messianic rule at the Temple?
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Animal sacrifices were only part of the sacrifices offered. And whether or not sacrifices will even be reinstituted is a matter of great debate. Eventually that will be up to the messiah to clarify.

Will the Arc of the Covenant be found and placed in The Holy of Holies?
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No clue.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Awoon said:
I have a couple questions.

Will There be enough animals for animal sacrifice during the Messianic rule at the Temple?

Will the Arc of the Covenant be found and placed in The Holy of Holies?
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There's a question as to whether the Messiah would have the Temple rebuilt and whether the sacrificial system would be reinstated, so a great many take the "wait and see" attitude.

As far as the Ark is concerned, I have it in my basement and I ain't giving it up. ;) But ya, it probably would be, but again the view tends to be that this would be a decision that the Messiah would make.

BTW, we're not all on the same page when it comes to the issue of the Messiah.
 
Akivah

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Awoon said:
I have a couple questions.

Will There be enough animals for animal sacrifice during the Messianic rule at the Temple?
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Money, flour, and perfume were also sacrificed in addition to animals (That was the purpose of the money changers outside the Temple). I can't help but think, money will be the prime sacrifice in the Third Temple.
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
Awoon said:
I have a couple questions.

Will There be enough animals for animal sacrifice during the Messianic rule at the Temple?
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That's like the "how did Noah fit all the animals in the ark?" question. The G-d that created animals will ensure that there will be enough one way or another.

Awoon said:
Will the Arc of the Covenant be found and placed in The Holy of Holies, or a new one made?
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Yes, it is one of the things that were hidden away by Josiah. Presumably, he'll recall where he left it.
 
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Yosef-Firstborn

Member
This is one belief I wrestled with for a long time. I don't really understand how the rebuilding of The Temple will happen in a way that fits an Age of Peace, but if it's a sign of the Messianic Age, and the Messianic Age is by definition peaceful, then I suppose G-d will figure out a way. And so, in the past, I didn't find it inspirational to look forward to the rebuilding of The Temple, but as I considered and realized that it will be compatible with an Age of Peace, then that is something I can get behind.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yosef-Firstborn said:
This is one belief I wrestled with for a long time. I don't really understand how the rebuilding of The Temple will happen in a way that fits an Age of Peace, but if it's a sign of the Messianic Age, and the Messianic Age is by definition peaceful, then I suppose G-d will figure out a way. And so, in the past, I didn't find it inspirational to look forward to the rebuilding of The Temple, but as I considered and realized that it will be compatible with an Age of Peace, then that is something I can get behind.
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There is the belief with some that the Messiah (or Messianic Age) might see a return to a pre-Noah vegetarian life-style.

Please pass the tofu.
 
Flankerl

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
metis said:
There is the belief with some that the Messiah (or Messianic Age) might see a return to a pre-Noah vegetarian life-style.

Please pass the tofu.
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Well there are also many people who believe that Electricity is Fire.

Doesn't mean its true.
 
JacobEzra.

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Yosef-Firstborn said:
This is one belief I wrestled with for a long time. I don't really understand how the rebuilding of The Temple will happen in a way that fits an Age of Peace, but if it's a sign of the Messianic Age, and the Messianic Age is by definition peaceful, then I suppose G-d will figure out a way. And so, in the past, I didn't find it inspirational to look forward to the rebuilding of The Temple, but as I considered and realized that it will be compatible with an Age of Peace, then that is something I can get behind.
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Do you find looking forward to the rebuilding of the Temple inspirational now?
 
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