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Assisted Death.

Are you in support of, or against Assisted Death?

  • For

    Votes: 23 79.3%
  • Against

    Votes: 6 20.7%

  • Total voters
    29

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Title.
Are you for or Against?

I am For. As an atheist, I do not subscribe to the 'Sanctity of Life' theology, nor do I particularly subscribe to the word 'Sacred'. What I do believe in, however, is the dignity of life, and that people should be free to choose a dignified end to their own life.
 

frangipani

Member
Premium Member
Title.
Are you for or Against?

I am For. As an atheist, I do not subscribe to the 'Sanctity of Life' theology, nor do I particularly subscribe to the word 'Sacred'. What I do believe in, however, is the dignity of life, and that people should be free to choose a dignified end to their own life.
I agree fully and am an advocate for voluntary euthanasia. I am a true Christian, that is what today is referred to as a 'Gnostic Christian' as such I have little regard for the matter universe and a great belief in the spiritual plain. As far as voluntary euthanasia is concerned I believe each person seeking to end their mortal life will know when the time is right for them, I believe the time will be right for someone when soul and spirit are united as one in Christ, us in Christ and Christ in us.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I vote for it also.

Your life is your own. No one else controls it. Although I'm against suicide because it's usually an action done in an extreme emotional irrational state, no one else or entity, or organization have the right to control your body.

My aunt died of cancer and I witnessed the slow horrible painful death she endured. I visited her the last day of her life and, although, she chose to stick it out, I would not fault her if she chose to end it earlier.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Against. I don't believe in promoting a culture of suicide. It also defeats the purpose of having anti-suicide programs. Societies can't have both at the same time.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Against. I don't believe in promoting a culture of suicide.

So if a loved one of your developed motor neurone disease (within possibility) you would rather watch them degenerate to a vegetative state in a long, painful and undignified fashion than allow them the liberty of choosing when they should end their life?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Against. I don't believe in promoting a culture of suicide. It also defeats the purpose of having anti-suicide programs. Societies can't have both at the same time.
Sure, we can have both.
Some people commit suicide for considered reasons, & will carry out their decision even with counsel otherwise. But others can have momentary despair which can be overcome, resulting in their choosing to live.

I voted for assisted death.
One's life is one's own, so one's death is also. Tis not for society to coopt this decision.
I still have a coupon good for one free visit to Dr Jack Kevorkian, but alas, he cannot honor it.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
So if a loved one of your developed motor neurone disease (within possibility) you would rather watch them degenerate to a vegetative state in a long, painful and undignified fashion than allow them the liberty of choosing when they should end their life?
I've been suicidal a lot throughout my life. Is my emotional pain less than their physical pain? Why shouldn't I kill myself?

Assisted suicide opens the door to normalizing suicide in general and that's very problematic. We have cases of people who are not terminally ill taking "suicide holidays" to countries where it's legal to kill themselves.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Sure, we can have both.
Some people commit suicide for considered reasons, & will carry out their decision even with counsel otherwise. But others can have momentary despair which can be overcome, resulting in their choosing to live.

So I voted for assisted death.
I still have a coupon good for one free visit to Dr Jack Kevorkian, but alas, he cannot honor it.
Some people have extremely severe depression and suffer from it for decades. Is their pain lesser than a terminally ill patient? Why shouldn't they blow their brains out or have someone overdose them?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some people have extremely severe depression and suffer from it for decades. Is their pain lesser than a terminally ill patient? Why shouldn't they blow their brains out or have someone overdose them?
Tis not for me to say whether they should or shouldn't end their lives.
Religons & government do not own them. It's their mind, body & life.
It's their decision.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I've been suicidal a lot throughout my life. Is my emotional pain less than their physical pain? Why shouldn't I kill myself?

But that is your choice.

Assisted suicide opens the door to normalizing suicide in general and that's very problematic. We have cases of people who are not terminally ill taking "suicide holidays" to countries where it's legal to kill themselves.

In America guns are legal and people are shot and die as a result. Most people who are shot and die as a product of American guns laws die involuntarily. Yet America has normalised the ownership of a gun as far as writing it into its constitution. Americans have promoted a gun culture and people have died involuntarily as a result.

If people die voluntarily as a result of a perceived suicide culture, then that is still free-choice, unlike deaths that occur as a result of gun culture.

Also, if someone really wants to commit suicide, they will find away whether it's legal or illegal to do so.

In the end, your ethical stance is untenable and only promotes a culture of pro-suffering.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I agree fully and am an advocate for voluntary euthanasia. I am a true Christian, that is what today is referred to as a 'Gnostic Christian' as such I have little regard for the matter universe and a great belief in the spiritual plain. As far as voluntary euthanasia is concerned I believe each person seeking to end their mortal life will know when the time is right for them, I believe the time will be right for someone when soul and spirit are united as one in Christ, us in Christ and Christ in us.
Well, yeah. I've concluded awhile ago that killing yourself is the logical conclusion of Gnostic dualism.
 
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