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Is Wicca evil?

Ody

Well-Known Member
Jerrell said:
The Pagans chose to Become Christian, they were not forced.

Actually there where some cases my friends, ever think of what the teutonic knights where doing most of the time in east prussia? O ya and the eastern roman empire shut down the temples for the egyptian dieties me thinks! :eek:
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Jerrell said:
Zeus is Satan according Jesus
Revelation 2:13-1313 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is( Zeus Seat)thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.


fwiw, it doesn't look good when you add your own emendations to Holy Writ like this. "Zeus" is not a term that appears anywhere in the Bible.

Quoting like this makes it look like you're trying to edit the Bible, which is not something I'm very keen on. :(

Could you please take a little more care in the future?

Thanks in advance.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
beckysoup61 said:
What I found interesting about the article was this

Current estimates of the total number of executions of innocent people range from 3,000 (by one Roman Catholic source) to 9,000,000 (by many Neopagan sources). The actual figure, based on the examination of court documents and estimates of the number of lost records, is probably in the range of 50,000 to 100,000

I've always heard that the Church puts the numbers too low and doesn't put a lot of emphasis on it and the Pagans highly exaggerated the numbers and put more emphasis then is really needed.

Just what I've heard.:flower:
I could care less of the actual numbers, that is NOT what the article was about. But this has become par for the course. :rolleyes:
 

Jerrell

Active Member
Actually Zeus Does Appear. Zeus is Jupiter(in Roman) He appears in Acts 14:12.

And by Not Forcing Pagans to convert, I mean in early Christian History when all of Pagan rome converteed. And also Many other Pagans before them converted of free will. Gentiles were all pagan, most of Chrisnitans today are gentile...this means something.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Jerrell said:
Actually Zeus Does Appear. Zeus is Jupiter(in Roman) He appears in Acts 14:12.

And by Not Forcing Pagans to convert, I mean in early Christian History when all of Pagan rome converteed. And also Many other Pagans before them converted of free will. Gentiles were all pagan, most of Chrisnitans today are gentile...this means something.
And as was pointed out to me earlier that Christ himself was not a Christian. He was Jewish.
 

Jerrell

Active Member
jeffrey said:
And as was pointed out to me earlier that Christ himself was not a Christian. He was Jewish.

Christians were not called Christians until After Christ Died, When Paul and the others were in Antioch. Jesus was not Christian yet he still beleived in the reli.

It is the same as Judaism, It's Founder, Abraham was not a Jew yet he still beleived in the same reli. . They were not called Jews until Judah was Founded more than 1000 Years later, after Leaving Egypt.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
About the forcing. Nobody can force you to do anything, even if it's between life and death, you make that choice.

They choose to become Christians even if they were practicing another thing in private and secretive.

You have a choice in everything you do, you cannot be forced. It's like the old saying

"The devil made me do it." The devil can't make you do anything, you have to choose to do it.

Those people CHOOSE between life and death, but they chose.
 

Jerrell

Active Member
Wicca is the same as any Pagan religion it is Vanity in my opinion. The Bilbe calls Paganism Vanity, so it is. I do not so much lack knowledge of Wicca, but i lack knowledge of most of the sects of Wicca. I do not know their Practices.

Plus, I'd rather read a book about the religion that's not written by a christian, So i can get a look at it from their pint of view.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
beckysoup61 said:
About the forcing. Nobody can force you to do anything, even if it's between life and death, you make that choice.

They choose to become Christians even if they were practicing another thing in private and secretive.

You have a choice in everything you do, you cannot be forced. It's like the old saying

"The devil made me do it." The devil can't make you do anything, you have to choose to do it.

Those people CHOOSE between life and death, but they chose.

The Pagans and the Early Christians
We saw in the previous chapter how the early Christians, before the religion came into ascendency under Constantine (c274-337), never showed any tolerance to wards the pagan religions; they insulted these religions at any chance they get. When Constantine became the sole Roman Emperor in 323, Christianity was made the official religion of the empire. With full official backing, the early church, no longer satisfied with simply spitting at idols, turned with full force to wards the pagan and persecuted them.
After Constantine's death in 337, two of his sons, Constantius (d.361) and Constans (d.350) took over the leadership of the empire. Constans, who ruled the western provinces was, like his father, a Christian. In 341, he decreed that all pagan worship and sacrifices should cease; warning those who persisted with the threat of the death penalty.
Full story here

Your right. They could have been killed. And of course the Apostles, like peter, denied Christ at the fear of death. And all the apostles, except John, fled and were not present at Christ's death, due to being afraid to die along side of him.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Jerrell said:
Actually Zeus Does Appear. Zeus is Jupiter(in Roman) He appears in Acts 14:12.

And by Not Forcing Pagans to convert, I mean in early Christian History when all of Pagan rome converteed. And also Many other Pagans before them converted of free will. Gentiles were all pagan, most of Chrisnitans today are gentile...this means something.

First of all, please keep in mind what Turk was kind enough to point out.

I think we're getting off topic, though. Paganism and its 'subsection' of Wicca are different enough that they deserve different topics. Please direct arguments about pagans and the history of our faith elsewhere.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Jerrell said:
Wicca is the same as any Pagan religion it is Vanity in my opinion. The Bilbe calls Paganism Vanity, so it is. I do not so much lack knowledge of Wicca, but i lack knowledge of most of the sects of Wicca. I do not know their Practices.

Plus, I'd rather read a book about the religion that's not written by a christian, So i can get a look at it from their pint of view.
Kind of odd, eh? Most Wiccans have studied Christianity, but most Christians are.. afraid?... to see the truth about Wicca.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Jerrell said:
These Idols were just stone(or metal). They were nothing to be worshipped or revered. Pagans had to know that they should turn from those vain gods. If you stand still and allow the statues of these idols to stand, what help is it. They had to destroy the statues.

P.S.- Read the BIble, They did not Force or attack the pagans in Early Church History(Book of Acts) INstead Chrisnity spread among Pagans thorugh Acts of Healing, and overwhelming convincing of the truth of the Word of God.

Jerrell, if you can contain yourself long enough, I would be happy to engage in a one on one debate with you about that. In the meantime, the forum rules have already been explained to you.
 

Jerrell

Active Member
You can Study Christianity all you wish. You wont understand it unless you are Christian. Most People who are not christian, as well as some who Are considered Christian. Dont understand Christianity. Just as many in the world dont understand Judaism. Studing does not bring you understanding, what brings true understanding is experincing the power of the being behind the name of the religion. That is, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit of Christianity. Now let's get back on Topic.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
jeffrey said:
Kind of odd, eh? Most Wiccans have studied Christianity, but most Christians are.. afraid?... to see the truth about Wicca.
That may be part of the design. Purposely using the law of attraction in your favor can have terrible consequences if you don't know what you are doing. One thing about karma is that it is lighter on the ignorant. With great wisdom, comes great responsiblity. I really think it is for our benefit that these wisdoms are held for those who are ready to recieve it. This path of spirituality is a specialty field, and not a general population thing.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Jerrell said:
You can Study Chrisnity all you wish. You wont understand it unless you are Christian. Most People are are not christian< as well as some who Are considered Christian. Dont understand Christianity. Just as many in the world dont understand Judaism. Studing does not bring you understanding, what brings true understanding is experincing the power of the being behind the name of the religion. That is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit of Christianity. Now let's get back on Topic.
Think so? I was Christian up until a short time ago. I'm 49, studied Christianity to the hilt. Then one day, with the help from my wife, and knowledge gained from this forum, I decided to no longer be a
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And started thinking for myself instead of letting others thing for me. Wicca is not evil. And before someone can claim it is, does it not make sense to have knowledge of it before condemning it? And to do else wise, would that not show ignorance?
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
EnhancedSpirit said:
That may be part of the design. Purposely using the law of attraction in your favor can have terrible consequences if you don't know what you are doing. One thing about karma is that it is lighter on the ignorant. With great wisdom, comes great responsiblity. I really think it is for our benefit that these wisdoms are held for those who are ready to recieve it. This path of spirituality is a specialty field, and not a general population thing.
Very wise. :jam:
 

Jerrell

Active Member
1Pe 1:5 - Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time*You were not kept therefore you were not saved in the first place.
It is not easy to simply leave Jeuss and start worshipping Idols if you have Experinced the Love of Christ.

Hebrews 2:3- 3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts F5 of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
 
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