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Is Wicca evil?

Draka

Wonder Woman
First, let's make a distinction between witchcraft and Wicca...and there IS a difference. If someone has a problem with "witchcraft" and considers IT evil and therefore Wicca evil then you have to realize the two are NOT synonymous. Witchcraft is a neutral practice, not a religion. Every religion uses a form of witchcraft, yes, even Christianity. Wicca is a religion that worships a god and goddess and many other lesser gods and goddesses. It's main rede is to "harm none". The belief in karma (that which you send out comes back to you both positive and negative) keeps our own actions in check without any god having to tell us right from wrong. How on Earth this could be evil is beyond me. Especially since the concept of pure evil and of Satan are Christian concepts and aren't even seen in Wicca. Wicca is more about balance than prophesy and doctrine.

If someone has a problem with people being able to regulate themselves without being told how to do so and want to claim that as evil, then that is their messed up version of reality and right and wrong...not an entire religion's.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
FFH said:
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I wasn't aware that playing tic-tac-toe with Hebrew was considered a valid form of scripture interpretation.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
I don't think it is evil per se, but as my faith any many others do, it says to worship God and God only.

I don't think it is evil and I don't think any members of the faith are evil, but I am supposed to worship God and I believe everyone else should (but we all have our free agency, so guess what, some of us aren't and that's just fine with me too), and by being a Wiccan, you aren't worshiping God.

So, from that, some people could take it to mean that it is evil, but I don't believe it is, they aren't worshipping God, but that doesn't make them evil.
 

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
I used to have a wiccan gf, have wiccan frends, and in general like them. I dont judge wiccans as evil nor do i think my gracious god Christ would either. evil is a strong word
 

Evenstar

The Wicked Christian
beckysoup61 said:
I don't think it is evil per se, but as my faith any many others do, it says to worship God and God only.

I don't think it is evil and I don't think any members of the faith are evil, but I am supposed to worship God and I believe everyone else should (but we all have our free agency, so guess what, some of us aren't and that's just fine with me too), and by being a Wiccan, you aren't worshiping God.

So, from that, some people could take it to mean that it is evil, but I don't believe it is, they aren't worshipping God, but that doesn't make them evil.
Some people just don't have a clue, of course I forgot Becky you though you were a Wiccan at one time.
Guess what YOUR WRONG
 

Krie

Member
no, that is the answer, wicca is not evil at all. Unless you believe that nature is evil
then we will talk.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
beckysoup61 said:
Excuse me?
i think rebecca is disagreeing with your statement of "wiccans do not worship God" - which i would also respectfully disagree with.

the gods and geddesses i worship are just as "real" to me as jesus is to you.... by worship, if you mean sing praise and prey to them, yes we do that too.... and if by worship, you mean "live your life to the best in their name" yes we do that too

in what way do theistic wiccans not worship God (i accept some wiccans are not theistic)
 

Opethian

Active Member
Next you're gonna tell me that ice cream isn't good...

I meant "evil and good" in the way people often mean it. Like satan vs god evil vs good. There is only evil and good in context. Yes, I think ice cream is good :D . Another person will think ice cream is bad. But I'm talking about the belief of most religious people in a "universal" good and evil, that can't be looked upon in context.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Great post, Mike! I agree with the overall train of thought, that people that think Wicca is evil, are ignorant and lacking in thought.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
Mike182 said:
i think rebecca is disagreeing with your statement of "wiccans do not worship God" - which i would also respectfully disagree with.

the gods and geddesses i worship are just as "real" to me as jesus is to you.... by worship, if you mean sing praise and prey to them, yes we do that too.... and if by worship, you mean "live your life to the best in their name" yes we do that too

in what way do theistic wiccans not worship God (i accept some wiccans are not theistic)

Oh, I didn't mean that. :) I know some worship God, in fact, you do, you are a Christian Wiccan. I didn't mean any offense by what I said.

I believe you wholeheartedly, I guess my words are a little confusing right now. I'm sorry about that.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
jeffrey said:
Great post, Mike! I agree with the overall train of thought, that people that think Wicca is evil, are ignorant and lacking in thought.

Maybe the just don't know much about it??? You shouldn't say that people who think that are ignorant and lacking in thought. Maybe that's how they were raised. My mother was raised by a mother who constantly cursed Mormons and said how evil they were, along with Witchcraft and a number of other things. Now my mum is a Mormon.

I don't know everything about Wicca, nor do I claim to. I don't think it is evil, not at all. I never once said that. I disagree with how we worship and I think people should worship my God, but I am not going to force it on anyone, they can accept if they want, but I fully believe in free will and agency and that people can choose for themselves who they want to worship, what they want to worship and how they want to worship.
 

Ody

Well-Known Member
How could a religion as kind and calm as wicca be evil? Seriously, no religion is evil, thats a stupid label for any religion, by the way ffh, the bible code does not really exist ok.... or do you need to read the follow up article by statistical sciences?
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
jeffrey said:
Great post, Mike! I agree with the overall train of thought, that people that think Wicca is evil, are ignorant and lacking in thought.

I'd agree with some of the others, that most people that believe paganism is evil simply do so because they've been taught to or because their religion condemns it. I'm not sure if anyone thinks that Wicca is more or less evil than paganism, and would be happy to learn, if there's anyone that thinks this, why that is. I understand, though, that some faiths encourage their members not to question what they're being told. As much as it causes me sorrow, I don't think they're a lesser person for it.

Perhaps the major thing in all of this is the perceptive that paganism/ Wicca is being seen with. If one looks at it soley through the eyes of any faith that believes that they are the only ones who follow the 'true path to god', then naturally, any faith that isn't following that path is inherently evil or needs to be corrected.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
beckysoup61 said:
Maybe the just don't know much about it??? You shouldn't say that people who think that are ignorant and lacking in thought. Maybe that's how they were raised. My mother was raised by a mother who constantly cursed Mormons and said how evil they were, along with Witchcraft and a number of other things. Now my mum is a Mormon.

I don't know everything about Wicca, nor do I claim to. I don't think it is evil, not at all. I never once said that. I disagree with how we worship and I think people should worship my God, but I am not going to force it on anyone, they can accept if they want, but I fully believe in free will and agency and that people can choose for themselves who they want to worship, what they want to worship and how they want to worship.

That's just it. You are being more specific now. It's not that Wiccans don't worship god. Heck...we worship gods and goddesses...we have more looking over our shoulder than most. It's that you believe that your god is the only god and that yours is the only right way to worship. Which if you didn't believe that then why would you follow the religion that you do? You wouldn't. Same goes for everyone else.

It boils down to WHY. Why does there HAVE to be a right and wrong? A good and evil? By applying these terms to those different from ourselves we do nothing but cause strife based on merely the thoughts in our heads. I could just as simply expound about how evil the Christian god is by the cruelty shown by him in the bible. But that is tit for tat and doesn't accomplish anything but hard feelings.

There doesn't have to be a right and wrong, or a good and evil. I say this over and over...no one really knows anything for sure about any deity or afterlife except for the dead souls that have passed on. Unless you make a habit of speaking to every single one to find out what they know or see then you can't know jack for sure. We all go off of what makes sense to us. We can do no more or no less.

There is no evil...just bad intentions.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
Draka said:
That's just it. You are being more specific now. It's not that Wiccans don't worship god. Heck...we worship gods and goddesses...we have more looking over our shoulder than most. It's that you believe that your god is the only god and that yours is the only right way to worship. Which if you didn't believe that then why would you follow the religion that you do? You wouldn't. Same goes for everyone else.

I understand, I still believe people should worship my God, but I'm not forcing it, if you read my others posts, you'll see that I said, I'm not going to force it on everybody, because I'm a huge supporter of the idea of free will and agency

Draka said:
It boils down to WHY. Why does there HAVE to be a right and wrong? A good and evil? By applying these terms to those different from ourselves we do nothing but cause strife based on merely the thoughts in our heads. I could just as simply expound about how evil the Christian god is by the cruelty shown by him in the bible. But that is tit for tat and doesn't accomplish anything but hard feelings.

I don't believe my God is the cruel, angry, vengeful one found in the Bible, and I believe when I posted somewhere else, that, that's not how He is, that's how the writers of those books portrayed Him because they were trying to get across a message.

Why does there have to be right or wrong? I believe there needs to be opposites in everything.

Right and wrong
Happiness and sadness.

Without one, you cannot have the other. I'm not sure why certain things are right and certain things are wrong, it's just that way I guess.

I'm sorry if I offended, that was not my purpose as I have stated time and TIME again.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
beckysoup61 said:
I understand, I still believe people should worship my God, but I'm not forcing it, if you read my others posts, you'll see that I said, I'm not going to force it on everybody, because I'm a huge supporter of the idea of free will and agency



I don't believe my God is the cruel, angry, vengeful one found in the Bible, and I believe when I posted somewhere else, that, that's not how He is, that's how the writers of those books portrayed Him because they were trying to get across a message.

Why does there have to be right or wrong? I believe there needs to be opposites in everything.

Right and wrong
Happiness and sadness.

Without one, you cannot have the other. I'm not sure why certain things are right and certain things are wrong, it's just that way I guess.

I'm sorry if I offended, that was not my purpose as I have stated time and TIME again.

Becky dear, the whole post wasn't directed at you. Just using your bit about "my god" as beginning example and jumping point. I wasn't criticizing you. And the comment I made about the Christian god was tongue in cheek as example of tit for tat as well. You did not offend...just gave me a spring board. Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you...I wasn't.
 
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