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"Teachers first, scientists second"
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Me Myself
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Then what on Earth are you discussing? o.0
What of the article makes you uncomfortable?
Agreed.
Sure.
Skwim
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Yup. Does this come as a surprise?
Particularly when that's exactly what they say : "uncomfortable with evolution itself." And what's with this "political landscape" nonsense?
I assume so because they are uncomfortable about it. In my experience people who are uncomfortable about a concept typically have doubts about it. What is your experience with people who are uncomfortable with a concept ?
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Definitely not what you're assuming. Discomfort is caused by many, many things. To presume the prospective teachers are experiencing discomfort specifically because they doubt the content they are teaching is an unsupported leap of logic. It may be true in at least some cases, but there is no evidence of that in the very limited information available in the poor blog article about the study.
Shadow Wolf
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Why should they be uncomfortable though? They are teaching one of the most well understood and widely accepted theories of science in a science class. Sure Jimmy or Suzy might cause a ruckus over it, but these teachers, if they are actually knowledgeable of the subject, will know how to explain why the criticisms actually don't work and how the evidence of evolution (or geology, anthropology, etc.) counters and discredits the religious attacks. For example, it is very common for religious critics to try to attack evolution because they believe evolution explains abiogenesis. It obviously does not.
The controversy only exist in the minds of those who don't understand and/or refuse to understand.
Skwim
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Whaaa? You presume to know what I assume and don't assume? That's a whole lot of arrogance you're carrying around. See you in some other thread.
Me Myself
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In my experience if they are uncomfortabl with a concept is because they find it an uncomfortable truth.
Quintessence is right, you are making a leap to assume they dont believe in evolution.
You just explained what you assumed. Why wouldnt she know it ? I think its very basic ettiquette to arque as if peopleare telling the truth about their views when speaking in this forum.
Why not? Just because you know the content and can respond well to baseless criticism of it doesn't mean you won't feel emotionally uncomfortable during confrontational scenarios. I've already said it before in this thread: it is perfectly human to feel uncomfortable when discussing or presenting things that are deemed controversial by your listeners. Those are tense conversations that can and do put people on edge, because such conversations can and do become breeding grounds for strife, disagreement, and hatred. This really isn't that hard to understand.
Er... you flatly stated what you assume in the very post I responded to. Also, personal attacks are against the rules, as I'm sure you know.
Me Myself
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Who happen to be half population of US I believe?
They are not teaching science to well learned biologists, but to students. The fact that is widely supported by science would pay little comfort in such an audience.
You may have an unshakable will and never have been anxious in your job ever, but if we limit the hiring of teachers to only those that are never anxious or doubtful about a class full of students under any situation, then you d have to hire substantially less teachers, cause most people are not as unshakable as you, and many that are are not thinking about teaching anyways.
Skwim
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Neither Quintessence nor I said this. Please go back and read the relevant posts.
Me Myself
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Well, doubts. You assume they are uncomfortable because of their doubts on the concept itself. There are several other reasons they could be uncomfortable about it beyond that, but you choose to assume that is the reason. Which is what you said, you said that in your experience that´s why people are uncomfortable about something.