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which evolved first,Libido or sex organs
- Thread starter FearGod
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Jumi
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FearGod
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What that to do with this thread.
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HonestJoe
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It kind of depends how you're defining "sex organs". Reproduction involving two different elements from two different (usually) individuals exists in many plants before you event start thinking of animals. You could call the parts of the plants involved in the process "sex organs" but they obviously don't have libidos. They'll involve automatic processes (wind, water, decomposition etc.) or outside influences (insect or bird transfer for example) instead.How evolutionists solve this equation.
If sex organs evolved without Libido then the organism will fail
Is Libido evolved without sex organs then the organism will fail
Is it due to plan and design that both should evolve together or just a perfect coincidence.
It seems perfectly possible that some early animals develop with similar reproduction methods, where the process happens as a natural consequence of other things rather than at the direct will of the creature itself. Obviously developing a specific desires (including libido) and physical characteristics to do things that increase the chance of reproduction would likely be beneficial to a species so there would be a natural evolutionary development in that direction.
That doesn't make sense.
First came organisms which, in the same way as plants, have sex organs but no need for a libido. Later, as motility developed, it became more reliable to approach other organisms so as to increase the chances of gametic fusion. Along with a variety of other features of the genitalia of motile sexually reproducing organs and their related behaviour, the libido evolved.
Yes, Feargod, this is a clear answer. I hope it helps to solve your dilemma.
Jumi
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Perspective, my friend.
When you have a system that requires something, the one that has it will survive. Bacteria that don't react to low concentration of nutrition or otherwise too high population will die out, where many of the ones that developed this sense lived.
It's the same with libido if we look deep enough at just humans and libido. Like you reasoned for humans' ancestors it couldn't have happened one without the other or we wouldn't be here.
FearGod
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Your answer doesn't make any sense.
Organisms that need libido won't breed without it, so as to say first sex organs then later on libido isn't a rational answer at all.
FearGod
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To you, it did, but for me it did nothing.
FearGod
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Perspective, my friend.
When you have a system that requires something, the one that has it will survive. Bacteria that don't react to low concentration of nutrition or otherwise too high population will die out, where many of the ones that developed this sense lived.
It's the same with libido if we look deep enough at just humans and libido. Like you reasoned for humans' ancestors it couldn't have happened one without the other or we wouldn't be here.
Breeding in humans can never be achieved without libido, both should exist simultaneously.
Shad
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Libido is a misapplication of terms for simple organisms. These organisms lack developed nervous systems which lead to psychological impulses, advance chemical and hormonal triggers, along with cognitive abilities to drive a Libido. Libdio applies to sexual reproduction not asexual reproduction. Your question is flawed so any answer which does not point of your error will not be acceptable.
FearGod
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Again,i'm speaking about organisms that needs both, which first evolved, libido or sex organs, i'm not speaking about the simple organisms which don't need libido to multiply.
Shad
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Since reproduction as asexual organism predates sexual production it predates libido. Examples can be found in asexual plant which have sex organs called gemmae. Like I said it is a misapplication of terms or an oversimplified understanding of both terms. Take your pick.
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HonestJoe
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I assume you're deliberatly ignoring my answer in post #9 because it does make sense and is rational but isn't the answer you want to hear.