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Going car free?

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hey all,
I was wondering if any of you have experience living a car-free lifestyle. It's something I've been seriously considering for many reasons, environmental ones first and foremost. If you live in an area where having a car is not required for your survival, I feel there is an ethical imperative to avoid owning one. Additionally, owning a car is just a pain, especially financially. I don't want to deal with it.
Excellent! For the last several years of my career I traveled the whole UK holding training courses......... with a fold up bike and a rucksack which contained private and work related gear. I loved it! I would take train to London, cycle across London to the next station and then on to the arrival town or city. I would then cycle to either hotel or venue.
On many occasions when the trains failed I could cycle up to say, 20 miles to a parallel system or Coach Station without even thinking about it.
But the bike has to be very good quality and fold up small enough to fit into a bag.

Or of I do want to deal with it, I want the kind of vehicle we should all be bloody driving in the 21st century. Enough with these gigantic, ancestor-burning monstrosities! I just need something to move me. What I want is something like this or this - a simple, modest vehicle with a little bit of cargo room that runs full electric and has a decent range. You'd think that these things would be more readily available by now at a reasonable consumer price point. A big part of me wants to refuse to purchase a car unless I can get a full electric or what I actually want - which is the above. Unless people put their foot down and demand change, it isn't going to happen.

Thoughts and advice about a car-free lifestyle or finding that tree-hugger dream vehicle?

Lithium Polymer batteries are massively expensive, and their electronics are micro-processed. If you are travelling within a big city only, then alright, but I don't think that electrical cars are developed enough yet.... and they are so expensive. I did try an electric folding bike but I had to worry about security for the battery (£300) if I ever left it outside a shop etc. I found that pedal power was best!
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I can't live carless... :D

I work next town, and obliged to attend to my family (mother and sisters especially) and take them out to have fun to distant places. Without a car I cannot do those requirements.

I however know life would be healthier without combustion engine cars.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I got rid of my car 15 years ago, definitely one of my better decisions. I realise some people need them for work and family commitments, but it puzzles me why so many people have them in urban areas with good public transport.
 

Jake1001

Computer Simulator
I got rid of my car 15 years ago, definitely one of my better decisions. I realise some people need them for work and family commitments, but it puzzles me why so many people have them in urban areas with good public transport.
Small electric vehicles will take over the urban landscape in the near future. Look for novel methods of power delivery to the vehicles. I like induction technologies.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
I'd love to go car free but I live in an area that is too spread out. I'd say I'd love to live in a city where I didn't require a car, but...then you have to deal with pollution. Never can win. ^_^
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I'd be more interested in building a portable smaller house and being able to tow it, than I would in getting rid of transportation. But, I also am not having any kids. Or at least if I ever do, it will be one max, or adoption.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'd be more interested in building a portable smaller house and being able to tow it, than I would in getting rid of transportation. But, I also am not having any kids. Or at least if I ever do, it will be one max, or adoption.
You might adopt?
I could use new parents!
Who's mom?

Anyway, I saw one of these up close, & find it to be about the best RV trailer out there for its combination of light weight, durability, maintainability & reasonable cost....
Quicksilver VRV, Axxess, and Polaris Ultra Lightweight Toy Haulers | Livin' Lite RV
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Aluminum Travel Trailer's ain't bad. I wonder how much all the aluminum costs though.
As I recall, a mid-sized model is about $25K brand new.
Their pop-out sleeping pods are really nifty.
And because the floor is aluminum, you can hose the whole place down after an orgy!
 

dust1n

Zindīq
As I recall, a mid-sized model is about $25K brand new.
Their pop-out sleeping pods are really nifty.
And because the floor is aluminum, you can hose the whole place down after an orgy!

Not bad. Metal is clean, but it would hard to work with. It's hard to get an orgy started on a metal floor.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not bad. Metal is clean, but it would hard to work with. It's hard to get an orgy started on a metal floor.
Well, of course you'd have rugs/blankets, furniture, pillows, etc.
Whatever soaked thru or rubbed off....no sweat (so to speak).
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Well, of course you'd have rugs/blankets, furniture, pillows, etc.
Whatever soaked thru or rubbed off....no sweat (so to speak).

The real question is can I get the electronics firmly built and mounted, set for solar. How else will the night-vision hidden cameras maintain power?
 

Jake1001

Computer Simulator
I think we need our auto infrastructure re-configured on the small electric car model. I like the Nissan Leaf, but it needs a much greater range. I would say it needs 250 miles. Hybrids will be ok for the next 5-10 years.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
I was car free about 3 years but I had a motorcycle, a 1100 V-Star, then a 1800 VTX then an R6. It's rough, the weather, it wears on you. The wind or bone chilling cold of the winter.

But you still may need an automobile, if you can't rent one, for labor or whatnot. Public transit isn't bad in most cities now days.

As far as being completely vehicleless it sucks.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Only times in my life I have been vehicle-less I was living right in the CBD, and could literally walk to work and transport hubs, or I was living in a logging village in Papua New Guinea. No frigging way I'd go car free living in the burbs.

However, moving to a single car is an interesting concept if at all possible (assuming a 'normal' two car family model, I mean)
 
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