You know What pisses me off about race and religion

I can't deal with it. What does anyone care about other people's race or religion. Too much. You know what I care about good people. Few and far between.

I feel that we all are entitled to like whatever race, like I like certain race over another race, but that doesn't mean I hate that race, I don't care for black soul music, but again that doesn't mean I hate blacks, I think this race crap has got out of control.

I personally see no reason to care about race in this day and age. I'll talk to anyone with same level of respect unless they prove themselves jerks somehow, but that's on themselves only.

Unibeauty said:

I can't deal with it.

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Hi..... welcome to RF.
You can't deal with it? How much does counselling cost around your way?

What does anyone care about other people's race or religion. Too much.

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Well, this forum has over 50,000 members so somebody somewhere is interested about other people, including race, religion, etc etc......

You know what I care about good people. Few and far between.

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That's you. OK, but if you are right, and good people are few and far between, think about how exciting it is when you do find a good person........ like diamonds in sand, maybe?

I think at least about half the humans are good.

I think most humans are at least half good.

I find it really funny when people try to convince themselves and others that they are "colourblind"

I do care about discussing good/beneficial forms of religious expression, healthy religious ideology vs. those less so. Doesn't really relate to race.

The "I'm Religion" badge tacked onto bad/detrimental forms of religious expression, unhealthy religious ideology gives an undeserved shield - protecting stuff poisonous to individuals and society while calling it sacred and halting criticism.

Unibeauty said:

I can't deal with it. What does anyone care about other people's race or religion. Too much. You know what I care about good people. Few and far between.

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People have an instinctual drive towards mistrusting people of other, unfamiliar ethnies, and a slightly more rational mistrust of beliefs they do not understand or share.

But the bottom line IMO is that trust is both important and difficult to attain.

The subconscious mind is trained to make life easier. It stockpiles similar experiences into one experience. That's what it does, naturally. So if we meet enough people of a certain race doing a certain behaviour, the mind automatically lets us know to assume the same behaviour from the next person we meet of that race. So we need to be aware of this conditioning, the way the mind operates, to combat it, particularly with our fellow humans.

I think it is silly to say you're colour blind. Everyone notices race. To deny it is saying you can't see. We notice gender, height, beauty, clothing etc. It's only racism if such observation affects our behaviour. Still, its difficult to be on guard all the time.

Unibeauty said:

I can't deal with it. What does anyone care about other people's race or religion.

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I'm trying to understand why someone who does not care about, and cannot deal with, other people's religion, would choose to join a ReligiousForums community.

Vinayaka said:

The subconscious mind is trained to make life easier. It stockpiles similar experiences into one experience. That's what it does, naturally. So if we meet enough people of a certain race doing a certain behaviour, the mind automatically lets us know to assume the same behaviour from the next person we meet of that race. So we need to be aware of this conditioning, the way the mind operates, to combat it, particularly with our fellow humans.

I think it is silly to say you're colour blind. Everyone notices race. To deny it is saying you can't see. We notice gender, height, beauty, clothing etc. It's only racism if such observation affects our behaviour. Still, its difficult to be on guard all the time.

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Oh how utterly PC of you to say! How dare you be so divisive!

I agree, btw. Watch what happens when some people (some people) will react much differently when a woman flirts with them, and then a man flirts with them. They may or may not be mono-oriented, but folks will at times feel very different when it happens.

It isn't a moral failure. It's cultural conditioning. It isn't a crime. It's symptomatic of a homophobic/biphobic/transphobic culture.

Subcultures and prejudice exist everywhere. We all carry baggage with us. All of us.

Jayhawker Soule said:

I'm trying to understand why someone who does not care about, and cannot deal with, other people's religion, would choose to join a ReligiousForums community.

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Let's be welcoming to new members. Our understanding of their reasons to join isn't required. We are all here....that is enuf.

MysticSang'ha said:

It isn't a moral failure. It's cultural conditioning. It isn't a crime. It's symptomatic of a homophobic/biphobic/transphobic culture.

Subcultures and prejudice exist everywhere. We all carry baggage with us. All of us.

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It could easily be tested (and proven) in any box store. Just put two tellers side by side, and have everything identical, except for the one variable. You'd have to somehow avoid the line-up problem. A lot of people just go to the shortest line-up. (race, beauty, gender) Then just count the people going to each. I'm definitely betting that if it was 'beauty' and the contrast was stark, the ratio would be at least 2 to 1.

I think "positions", that is your "opinions" that (to others) "colour" which "side" you are on (in the mind of the other who is observing your "opnions") play a HUGE role in "putting individuals into a box" and is more fundamental to such bigotry today than race.

For example, take the bigotry of the far left and media in America attacking an "African-American" (black) who is a Republican (such as Dr. Ben Carson or Clarence Thomas) that actually are extremely racist with comments such as "he isn't black" (or not "black enough") as if all blacks must be a certain "box" or welfare mamas and such instead of seeing them as individuals. The same happens to "Christians", for that matter who are among the most persecuted. And the same left-wing attacks viciously any homosexual and then uses the most vicious stereotypes to attack their very sexuality unless they agree to the narrative of a set of "political ten commandments". Elements in the right do the same, perhaps not to the mean-spirited extent of the left, nor is the "middle" saints either - in fact many if not most who go around saying "oh I am in the MIDDLE" (or even laughably "an independent") when this wing has it's own "political ten commandments" as they think they add to their own importance and sense of "I am smarter than those OTHERS who are not US" and this "center" is just another herd where individuals lose their individuality and then start attacking OTHERS and often in a very racial way.

So in my opinion, this is a form of bigotry, that then takes a language of it's own racism, and is a much larger problem today than actual racism which does exist but (in America) is actually very small in numbers while the ideologues are in larger numbers and in way more dangerous posiions of power than racists. They are a religion, too.

Also, it seems to me, things like Twitter and Facebook do not promote discussion but forms "groups" or "herds" of ideologues and makes this worse. Not saying to stop it, in fact way too many in such herds want to do exactly that, shut down these things and control the internet such that only their herd is allowed and no one else. There is a strange "digital identity" among such herds where they are a race (a digital race with it's own skin color) who are the superior race and all others must be exterminated.

That is where even religion becomes racist - the one place it is still alive is among the herds of a digital race.

Unibeauty said:

I can't deal with it. What does anyone care about other people's race or religion. Too much. You know what I care about good people. Few and far between.

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Caring is a characteristic of quality. We all respond to the prettiness of the world, even if just to point fingers at its negation.

Horrorble said:

I find it really funny when people try to convince themselves and others that they are "colourblind"

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Color is not much, can you notice different white, black or asian races?

Jumi said:

Color is not much, can you notice different white, black or asian races?

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I don’t care about race in some ways, and care about it in others. That’s not the same thing as not being conscious of race. I am very conscious of race, but I know that it is not a morally or intellectually significant fact, even as it is socially and psychologically significant.

Religion is another matter entirely. It is morally, intellectually, socially and psychologically significant.

Dude, you like what you like so not here to judge. Seen enough judges in my life. I'm not here as anyone's judge or exucurtioner.

psychoslice said:

I feel that we all are entitled to like whatever race, like I like certain race over another race, but that doesn't mean I hate that race, I don't care for black soul music, but again that doesn't mean I hate blacks, I think this race crap has got out of control.

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I think that is part of the problem. People claiming a race at all. We are all mixed anyway. Love people, not everything they do.