Questions of Christianity

Bishka · Apr 17, 2006

Jerrell said:
No, I do believe that there are good people outside christianity who feed and help the seek and needy. But the Children of God are holding the burden of the majority. Why? Jesus told us too therefore we do. Now those good people, they have a good heart, a heart like unto christ, they are few but atleast they exist, It is good to lay down you life for a friend, if so they do, they are good.

Consider this, there is Roughly Four Billion people who are not Christians, 2 Billion are christians, Why do christians do more than the other 4 billion? That is a good Question, maybe you can figure out the asnwer yourself.

Hardly, there are charities and people from all different faiths and atheists that do a good share of work.

Yes, you "Christians" will go out and do your good deed yet tell another Church or member of another denomination that the are going to hell because they don't believe the same as you. That doesn't make any sense.

Jerrell · Apr 17, 2006

beckysoup61 said:
I'd like to see that

Yet if you read the King James Version, he takes seven of every unclean animal, and two of every clean animal. What do you have to say about that?

Actually it is 7 of Clean, and 2 of Unclean. Genesis 7:2, also Read Genesis 7:9

7 is a number of God, it means Completion, or perfection.(I.e. Seven Weeks, sevens days of creation, forgive brother seven times seventy, and such eles.)

Bishka · Apr 17, 2006

Jerrell said:
Actually it is 7 of Clean, and 2 of Unclean. Genesis 7:2, also Read Genesis 7:9

7 is a number of God, it means Completion, or perfection.(I.e. Seven Weeks, sevens days of creation, forgive brother seven times seventy, and such eles.)

Meh, I got it backwards, but at least I was closer then you. Backpedaling are we? :bonk:

Jerrell · Apr 17, 2006

No, I tell no one they are going to hell. You only go to hell if you dont accpet Jeuss Christ as Lord and Savior. I Could care less which denomination you are as long as you confess Jesus as Lord and Savior and beleive he rose from the dead.

Now Some denomiatnions teach false things and these teachings will lead u to hell becuase they decieve you. I dont tell a "cuhrch" or "church member" they are going to hell the bible in

Romans 10:6 "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) "

We are not to say who will go to heaven or who will go to hell, now if hypocrits tell people are going to hell that is them, dont blame me for their actions.

Jerrell · Apr 17, 2006

lol...I was mistaken, Sorry I am not perfect but atleast i realised from reading the Bible i was wrong....(^_^)...THe Bible is our guideline.

Bishka · Apr 17, 2006

Jerrell said:
No, I tell no one they are going to hell.

You say this yet, you say this

Jerrell said:
Now Some denomiatnions teach false things and these teachings will lead u to hell becuase they decieve you. I dont tell a "cuhrch" or "church member" they are going to hell the bible in

.

Hypocritcal and wrong. You are saying that you say no one goes to hell, then you turn around and say people who teach what you suppose is false doctrine are going to hell. *sigh* :bonk:

MysticSang'ha · Apr 17, 2006

Jerrell said:
No, I do believe that there are good people outside christianity who feed and help the seek and needy. But the Children of God are holding the burden of the majority. Why? Jesus told us too therefore we do. Now those good people, they have a good heart, a heart like unto christ, they are few but atleast they exist, It is good to lay down you life for a friend, if so they do, they are good.

Consider this, there is Roughly Four Billion people who are not Christians, 2 Billion are christians, Why do christians do more than the other 4 billion? That is a good Question, maybe you can figure out the asnwer yourself.

I am simply following your figures, here, for the sake of argument. You raised the question. Perhaps I am too blind to see the answer. Why is it that Christians do the majority of the work? Are you here to show proof that your faith is vastly superior to mine?

Peace,
Mystic

Jerrell · Apr 18, 2006

MysticSang'ha said:
I am simply following your figures, here, for the sake of argument. You raised the question. Perhaps I am too blind to see the answer. Why is it that Christians do the majority of the work? Are you here to show proof that your faith is vastly superior to mine?

Peace,
Mystic

NO i am not trying to say Chrisnity is superior, but what drives Christian to be so Kind? So Joyous? SO loving of the needy and sick? Why? The answer is God is in them, the spirit of truth, the spirit of God, and it drives them to do so much good.

Bishka · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
NO i am not trying to say Chrisnity is superior, but what drives Christian to be so Kind? So Joyous? SO loving of the needy and sick? Why? The answer is God is in them, the spirit of truth, the spirit of God, and it drives them to do so much good.

So? Buddhists don't need God to be driven to do good, they do it on their own.

Jerrell · Apr 18, 2006

beckysoup61 said:
You say this yet, you say this

Hypocritcal and wrong. You are saying that you say no one goes to hell, then you turn around and say people who teach what you suppose is false doctrine are going to hell. *sigh* :bonk:

I dont tell people they are going to hell, but yet the bible declares flase teachers will go to hell.I dont lie when i say they are going there, the bible says so...I only tell them what the bible says and that is truth.

Jerrell · Apr 18, 2006

Do you not know Satan is a Father unto his Children? If he can feed and tkae care of his Children as God takes care of his, how much more can the heathan do the same as the Saved?

Feathers in Hair · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
Do you not know Satan is a Father unto his Children? If he can feed and tkae care of his Children as God takes care of his, how much more can the heathan do the same as the Saved?

Hello, again. I'll ask, one more time, for you to take a glimpse at our forum rules. If you have questions about how they apply to posts, please feel free to ask myself, Todd or any of the other staff.

Jerrell · Apr 18, 2006

OKay, Please read to make sure When u ask A Question i have not already answered it. Come on Bring the Questions!!!!..lol...

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
I find this strange. Do you not know the Holy Spirit is Taught by Jesus, now if EVERYTHING in the BIble is flase then u must beleive the Teaching of the Holy Spirit is false therefore why do u say you are led by the HOly Spirit.

You lead yourself, The Holy Spirit is not guiding you, if he was you would understnad that the Scripture is Holy, and nothing in it is flase. Just becuase you dont understand doesn't mean it is flase, learn to do more than study, you need to ask questions, Either Ask God, and Ask a Minister of God,
Pr 3:5 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Trust that God will lead you, Now If you trust him you must put your faith in him, how do you do this? Trust n Jeuss Christ and the Father will recieve you. Do this and You will be saved Only After Being Saved can you recieve the Holy Spirt, for the World(the unsaved) can't have the HOly Sprit.
Joh 14:17 - I will send you..."the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
If you dont beleive the Bible dont try to claim it's Gifts without Christ, now how is Christ known? He is known by the BIble, now if u say the Bible is Flase, do u say Christ is false?

Howbeit men lead themselves...claiming to be lead by God that they may decieve.

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Ok, I admit that the example I gave was illogical, considering that the Holy Spirit doctrine is effected by the Bible itself. However, my point was this: You cannot utilize the Holy Spirit to justify your beliefs, because others who do the same may harbor beliefs different than your own.

Jerrell · Apr 18, 2006

I understand your point.

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

beckysoup61 said:
So? Buddhists don't need God to be driven to do good, they do it on their own.

Such is true for many non-Christians. It must be understood that Christians are not the sole good-doers in the world.

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
Jas 2:10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

1Jo 3:4 - Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Jas 2:11 - For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the lawRo

2:13 - (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Sin- Transgression, Missing the mark, not being perfect(which we cant help) That is the reason This was written-

Ro 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
That is why Jesus came

Re 1:5 - And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Mt 9:13 - But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Jesus came to free you from your sin

Ro 6:22 - But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life

And the end of this is Everlasting Life, That is to be Present with God Forever, how great is his love that he would die for us, so that we could be with him forever?

Let me rephrase: define sin in your own terms, without implementing any biblical passages.

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

GE 1:11-12

11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26-27

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:4-9 (King James Version)
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

For what reasons do you claim that the statements in these passages are not in chronological order?

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
5)
DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.

Such ignorance. Did you know how Jesus grew Up? He grew up in a time of war in a time of trouble. The Commandment of God is to Love your Neighbor as yourself. This is the gretest COmmandment. So, If you have a enemy and you enemies are always near, they are your neighbors, so you are to love them. This is the love of Christ, and this love and Convert a multitude.

You have not disproved the point. Yes, you have proved to me that you agree with the latter. However, the point is that the latter disagrees with the former.

Deuteronomy 7:9-10 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

9Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

10And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.

Matthew 5:39-44 (King James Version)

39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

finalfrogo · Apr 18, 2006

Jerrell said:
6)
DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.

Children do not become blind becuase thier father sinned. Children are not handed over to homosexuality becuase of their paren'ts sin. Children dont become poor becuase of their parents sin....Adam was the Father of all HUmans, his Action passed the Curse of sin on, We dont suffer becuase of his sin, We suffer becuase of our Own sin.

Again, you're not disproving the point. Yes, I agree with you, and I see that you agree with DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, and EZ 18:20. However, read RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22

They clearly disagree with your beliefs...

Romans 5:12 (King James Version)
12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Romans 5:19 (King James Version)
19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

1 Corinthians 15:22 (King James Version)
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

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