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Starting afresh with Buddhism

FashionOfMyLove

Non-Conformist
For two and a half years I have considered myself a Buddhist and admittedly I have made little progress. At first things went well and everything meant sense but then I ended up ending up going into a group of Buddhism that wasn't really right for me. I ended up out of practice. Now I am hoping to get my spiritual life back on track but with a clean slate. I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence. I do not hope to get into any one the extraneous, esoteric stuff like how I did before.

Can any one give any advice on how to do this? Has anyone on here done this before or wanted to?
 
For two and a half years I have considered myself a Buddhist and admittedly I have made little progress. At first things went well and everything meant sense but then I ended up ending up going into a group of Buddhism that wasn't really right for me. I ended up out of practice. Now I am hoping to get my spiritual life back on track but with a clean slate. I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence. I do not hope to get into any one the extraneous, esoteric stuff like how I did before.

Can any one give any advice on how to do this? Has anyone on here done this before or wanted to?
I wish you well with your reentry. Please post about your experience. Eager to hear about it.
 

JRMcC

Active Member
For two and a half years I have considered myself a Buddhist and admittedly I have made little progress. At first things went well and everything meant sense but then I ended up ending up going into a group of Buddhism that wasn't really right for me. I ended up out of practice. Now I am hoping to get my spiritual life back on track but with a clean slate. I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence. I do not hope to get into any one the extraneous, esoteric stuff like how I did before.

Can any one give any advice on how to do this? Has anyone on here done this before or wanted to?

I think you're doing the right thing by keeping it basic :). I think the core messages of Buddhism are extremely enlightening; my life improved significantly after I heard them. In fact, I think a lot of other eastern religions like Shaivism and Taoism have similarly enlightening messages to offer.

But one religious system can't explain everything about the world. Too much is unknown or perhaps unknowable. For some people (like me) acceptance of too many specific ideas in a single religion leads to general doubt, which is damaging to spiritual progress. Sounds like that might have happened to you. Like I said, going back to the basics is a great idea in my opinion.
Good luck with your new start!
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
Do you mean Theravada? If you are interested in secular Buddhism, I would suggest insight meditation, or vipassana. That's the most lay-friendly movement that I'm aware of in Theravada, which is ordinarily pretty focused on monastic practice.
 

FashionOfMyLove

Non-Conformist
Do you mean Theravada? If you are interested in secular Buddhism, I would suggest insight meditation, or vipassana. That's the most lay-friendly movement that I'm aware of in Theravada, which is ordinarily pretty focused on monastic practice.
I did consider Theravada but was turned off by the fact that it is focused on monastics. I think the fact that it is not approachable for lay people is why so many people in Thailand and other Theravada countries consider themselves Buddhist but actually no very little of Buddhism.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Can any one give any advice on how to do this? Has anyone on here done this before or wanted to?

This is a pretty good introduction to Theravada Buddhism - the approach is quite traditional but it's clearly written: http://www.dhammaweb.net/books/Dr_Walpola_Rahula_What_the_Buddha_Taught.pdf

Are there any local Theravada groups or centres you could visit? You could ask around locally, or the Buddhanet directory might be useful: World Buddhist Directory - Presented by BuddhaNet.Net

Theravada forum here: Dhamma Wheel - Active topics

Secular Buddhist site here: Secular Buddhist Association

Please do ask if you have further questions.
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I did consider Theravada but was turned off by the fact that it is focused on monastics.

In the UK the Thai Forest tradition has monasteries but also many affiliated lay-Buddhist groups. There is also the Samatha Trust which is a non-monastic tradition. I've had involvement with both.
 
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FashionOfMyLove

Non-Conformist
I am now considering Zen/Chan. I feel this tradition may be compatible with me due to less emphasis on rebirth which I am skeptical with and because it is fairly simplistic and isn't esoteric and I feel is good for lay people.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I am now considering Zen/Chan. I feel this tradition may be compatible with me due to less emphasis on rebirth which I am skeptical with and because it is fairly simplistic and isn't esoteric and I feel is good for lay people.

Try things out and see how they feel. Visit different groups. It's fine to "shop around" and explore different approaches. Both Theravada and Zen have a strong emphasis on meditation and mindfulness, so there are similarities. There are actually quite a number of different approaches within Theravada, for example Thai Forest emphasize present-moment practice and leave rebirth on the back burner. I've practised in both Zen and Theravada traditions and it's not uncommon for people to move around different schools over a period of time.

There are Zen forums and sites, but I'm not really familiar with them. Maybe others here can make suggestions.

There's lots of information on the internet, but my advice would be to visit some Buddhist groups and see first-hand what they are like.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
For two and a half years I have considered myself a Buddhist and admittedly I have made little progress. At first things went well and everything meant sense but then I ended up ending up going into a group of Buddhism that wasn't really right for me. I ended up out of practice. Now I am hoping to get my spiritual life back on track but with a clean slate. I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence. I do not hope to get into any one the extraneous, esoteric stuff like how I did before.

Can any one give any advice on how to do this? Has anyone on here done this before or wanted to?
Its not like you need to afresh any type of Buddhist practice. ;O]
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence.
Dump all that and follow the noble Eight-fold Path. Follow 'Dhamma'.
 

sampuna

Member
Theravada Buddhism lets you choose your path - as a lay person or monastic. There's no emphasis on any path, save the Noble Eightfold Path, and again, it is up to each individual to practise.

I'm currently reading the details of the Four Noble Truths here Mahasatipatthanasuttam 5v: Catusaccapabbam , perhaps you may want to do the same before wandering to more forms of Buddhism.
 

Vishvavajra

Active Member
For two and a half years I have considered myself a Buddhist and admittedly I have made little progress. At first things went well and everything meant sense but then I ended up ending up going into a group of Buddhism that wasn't really right for me. I ended up out of practice. Now I am hoping to get my spiritual life back on track but with a clean slate. I aim to just go back to the basic, core beliefs and practices that are common to most types of Buddhism for now at least. I am considering just practicing a simple form of Buddhism like Nikaya/Hinayana, as Buddhism was when it first came into existence. I do not hope to get into any one the extraneous, esoteric stuff like how I did before.

If you find the Theravada useful, then that's fine. People get too caught up in sectarian differences and forget that ultimately none of that is real; it's just a question of what practices are emphasized, and not all practices will be of use to everyone.

"Nikaya Buddhism" is effectively synonymous with the Theravada, since they're the only ones who still keep the canon in Pali and call them Nikayas. Other schools refer to them as Agamas and passed them down originally in Sanskrit and later in Chinese. The choice of language was one of the ways early Buddhist schools differentiated themselves, and both the Pali and the Sanskrit versions were compiled around the same time. The Pali Canon isn't necessarily any more representative of early Buddhism than any other rescension, contrary to what Theravadins like to claim. And none of those early schools at that time still exist, although modern schools can trace their descent back to them, Theravada included.

The main difference these days is that the Theravada have a closed canon, which means they don't accept any scriptures outside of their current version of the Pali Nikayas, whereas other schools have open canons and consider any text that is written from the standpoint of Awakened mind to have been written by Buddha, since Buddha is not just the one guy named Gautama.

There's often the perception that the Theravada is older, purer, and simpler than other schools, but there are a lot of problems with those assumptions, as well as the whole framing of the issue. The bottom line is that you should find a school whose practices work for you, regardless of whether it's Theravada or another school. The very basic teachings really don't differ from one school to the next: dependent origination, selflessness, the ability to liberate oneself from vexations by training the mind to let go of delusions, etc. Everything else is just methods.
 

Vishvavajra

Active Member
And as far as "Hinayana" goes, that's not an actual school of Buddhism; it's a negative term for any path that seeks strictly personal salvation in lieu of the universal liberation of all sentient beings. Nobody actually calls themselves a Hinayanist. When early Mahayana schools invented the term, they were referring to schools that don't exist anymore. Nowadays whether someone practices Hinayana is a question of motivation rather than sectarian affiliation.

And of course, the Mahayana view is that Hinayana does not reflect the original intent of Buddhadharma, as evidenced by the example of Gautama Buddha who attained Awakening for the benefit of all beings.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
For me the whole idea of Buddhism is that we are the Buddha, we always have been, its just that we forgot, the remembrance is called Enlightenment, its that simple.
 
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