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Jesus is not god

Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
serp777 said:
Please qupte the bible passage. I'd like to remind you that a person cannot consist of words. That makes no sense. His name isn't the word of God, its Jesus obviously. Jesus is one word, and the word of God is three words.
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Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
kjv4me2you said:
Sin does not die but it is appointed unto man once to die. Mortal men die once. Jesus died once and was resurrected but the spirit Christ never died.

(Heb 9:27 KJV) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

God-Elohim for a reason made Jesus to be sin for us.
(2 Cor 5:21 KJV) For he ( YHWH-YaH) hath made him (Yehoshua) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God-Elohim in him ( Yehoshua)

Our faith is in the faith of Christ that Jesus was that anointed-Christ
Our faith that cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God is the scriptural faith that it is the faith of Christ that saves us.
(Phil 3:9 KJV) And be found in him ( Christ/in the anointing) , not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

YHWH-YaH anointed-christened Jesus at about 30 years of age.
(Luke 3:22 KJV) And the Holy Ghost G4151 ( Christ's spirit ) descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him ( Jesus) , and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

(Luke 3:23 KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

At about age 30 Jesus begins to learn obedience by the things he suffered but up until age 30 Jesus was like a child before the age of reasoning knows no sin. Jesus after age 30 being tempted did not sin.because of the anointing spirit of Christ in him.

(Heb 2:18 KJV) For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

(Heb 5:8 KJV) Though he ( Yehoshua) were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he ( Yehoshua) suffered;

(Heb 5:9 KJV) And being made perfect, he ( Yehoshua) became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him ( Yehoshua);

(Heb 5:10 KJV) Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

There is no longer an Aaronic priesthood.

Jesus of Nazareth was put by God into the order of Melchisedec's spirit Christ the anointed priesthood; because Jesus was anointed-christened as that Christ-messias, we also are now in the royal priesthood that has changed no longer being the anointed-Christened Aaronic earthly priesthood..

The anointing occurred when Jesus was about 30 years of age.
(Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of YHWH-YaH is upon me (Jesus) , because He ( YHWH-YaH) hath anointed (christened) me ( Jesus) to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent me ( Jesus) to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, (Luke 4:19 KJV) To preach the acceptable year of YHWH-YaH.

YHWH-YaH makes Jesus of Nazareth a priest forever.
(Heb 5:6 KJV) As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
God made Jesus to be sin for us and God made Jesus a priest forever so that we with Jesus could he a royal prieshood a holy nation.

YHWH-YaH said in Exo 4:22 that the nation Israel was His Firstborn Son.
(Exo 4:22 KJV) And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

.From Heaven Jesus speaks Hebrew from heaven to Paul on earth.

(Acts 22:8 KJV) And I answered, Who art thou, master? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
(Acts 26:14 KJV) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Lively Stones built upon that Rock Christ the image of God-Elohim

(1 Pet 2:5 KJV) Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God-Elohim by Jesus Christ.

(1 Pet 2:9 KJV) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

(2 Cor 4:4 KJV) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


willyah
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kjv4me2you said:
Sin does not die but it is appointed unto man once to die. Mortal men die once. Jesus died once and was resurrected but the spirit Christ never died.

(Heb 9:27 KJV) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

God-Elohim for a reason made Jesus to be sin for us.
(2 Cor 5:21 KJV) For he ( YHWH-YaH) hath made him (Yehoshua) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God-Elohim in him ( Yehoshua)

Our faith is in the faith of Christ that Jesus was that anointed-Christ
Our faith that cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God is the scriptural faith that it is the faith of Christ that saves us.
(Phil 3:9 KJV) And be found in him ( Christ/in the anointing) , not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

YHWH-YaH anointed-christened Jesus at about 30 years of age.
(Luke 3:22 KJV) And the Holy Ghost G4151 ( Christ's spirit ) descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him ( Jesus) , and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

(Luke 3:23 KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

At about age 30 Jesus begins to learn obedience by the things he suffered but up until age 30 Jesus was like a child before the age of reasoning knows no sin. Jesus after age 30 being tempted did not sin.because of the anointing spirit of Christ in him.

(Heb 2:18 KJV) For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

(Heb 5:8 KJV) Though he ( Yehoshua) were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he ( Yehoshua) suffered;

(Heb 5:9 KJV) And being made perfect, he ( Yehoshua) became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him ( Yehoshua);

(Heb 5:10 KJV) Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

There is no longer an Aaronic priesthood.

Jesus of Nazareth was put by God into the order of Melchisedec's spirit Christ the anointed priesthood; because Jesus was anointed-christened as that Christ-messias, we also are now in the royal priesthood that has changed no longer being the anointed-Christened Aaronic earthly priesthood..

The anointing occurred when Jesus was about 30 years of age.
(Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of YHWH-YaH is upon me (Jesus) , because He ( YHWH-YaH) hath anointed (christened) me ( Jesus) to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent me ( Jesus) to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, (Luke 4:19 KJV) To preach the acceptable year of YHWH-YaH.

YHWH-YaH makes Jesus of Nazareth a priest forever.
(Heb 5:6 KJV) As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
God made Jesus to be sin for us and God made Jesus a priest forever so that we with Jesus could he a royal prieshood a holy nation.

YHWH-YaH said in Exo 4:22 that the nation Israel was His Firstborn Son.
(Exo 4:22 KJV) And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

.From Heaven Jesus speaks Hebrew from heaven to Paul on earth.

(Acts 22:8 KJV) And I answered, Who art thou, master? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
(Acts 26:14 KJV) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Lively Stones built upon that Rock Christ the image of God-Elohim

(1 Pet 2:5 KJV) Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God-Elohim by Jesus Christ.

(1 Pet 2:9 KJV) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

(2 Cor 4:4 KJV) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


willyah
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Too bad that you do not recognize Jesus, though the world was made through him.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.
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Well it makes no sense. There are of course mistakes made in scripture documents and this appears to be one of them.
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
If you want to know if what Jesus says in the Holy Bible is true or not, there is a way you can find out, it is the only way to find out. Jesus tells us what we must do to find out.
Jesus says the way to know is to get his teachings and do what he says. See John 7:17.

As for other gods and goddesses---

Satan and his angels were thrown down to earth. Satan knew the Messiah would come, and he made many copy-cat messiahs/gods, before Jesus came to earth in the flesh. When Satan came to earth, he made copy-cat stories, and promoted gods of stone and wood. These ‘gods’ are really demons, and believing in these gods is the worship of demons.

Many nations have these demonic gods. In Egypt, Isis is a goddess worshipped, as is her consort, the sun god Ra. Isis is the mother of many gods. She also had a son, Horus, who was called divine. One can study about the Norse Gods — Odin, Thor, Balder, Frey, Freya, and Loki; and, Hindu gods, and Greek gods.

We see in the Bible where people worshiped goat and calf idols. In the book of Ezekiel we read about the image of jealousy set up at the gate of the altar Ezekiel 8:5, and 6, to provoke God of Israel to anger.

1 Corinthians 10:20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.
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I am a Christianbeliever-.
I know the Gospel also.
The problemhere-.
1. others don't believe in the Bible-
2. others don't accept the Bible as the sole source of evidence
3. the others are looking for a sensual and material-Guide.
4. others don't believe in the validity of written history
5. However I told them will not beleeue thee
6. for this reason
7. I leave this point of difference
And I tell them
8. u.
Lookatthe teachings of Jesus
9.-is it false teachings??
10-l-I tell them
Lookatthe qualities ofGod whoyou thinkthey are correct
11.-
If the teachings of Christ are complete and correct
12.-This means that Christ, who wrote the Gospels teachings are correct and acceptable
This is important in the agreement
13. n-I believe I leave this point of contention
Leave itto my heart
And keeps my mind
It relaxes to the teachings of Jesus
14. m-am I looked at Muhammad's teachings
And I looked at the teachings of some European thinkers
Through reading
15. m. but my soul rest to the teachings of Jesus
I wish I could haveunderstoodthese wordsinterlocutorsbrothers
16. the word of God, and God and his word will accept the soul by intellect
Thank you
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

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muhammad_isa said:
They are not making anything up..
The problem is twofold:

1. You interpret the Bible according to your belief .. others have other perfectly valid beliefs

2. You see the Bible as an unerring text, whereas although it contains truth, it can be misleading .. particularly if you try to take it literally

...

I have done that in the past, before I was blessed with understanding the Qur'an..
Believe me .. trying to follow everything it contains is nigh on impossible! :)
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Christianity without God better with God
1. If I put the teachings of the Gospel
And compares them with the teachings of the Koran
3. you will know that the Koran is wrong
4. you'll learn that the teachings of the Bible are correct
5. simple example-.
6. do all the Quran teach and care for children
7 j-does the Quran teach one about love and love
8 a. is in loving the poor education you enter into
7. l-does the Quran teach freedom
8.-the God of the Qur'an is God blood
9-n-do you know that Muhammad is equal with God in Islam
10. n-Islamic faith is of colon-.
11-n-belief in Allaah
The second condition that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
12-m-lokolt that one is not enough in Islam
13. m-must say Muhammad is the Messenger of God
14. k-here the problem-Mohammed is God
Both are equal
15. h-ask the experts in the math equation
You'll learn that Islam without Muhammad is not acceptable
16-e-Islam is the problem of the great humanitarian and misleading
 
muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
False teachers are who confuse everyone.
The Bible is plainly written.
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You know why satan is cursed, don't you?

Arrogance and pride! "know it alls" who don't listen will fall in the same way .. you should know that!

I don't know everything, and nor do you .. this life is a journey in which we will gain wisdom, God willing. You can't gain anything if you are not prepared to learn from others ..

..well .. I suppose you can .. but the lone sheep is devoured by the wolf .. so be careful :eek:
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
serp777 said:
Well it makes no sense. There are of course mistakes made in scripture documents and this appears to be one of them.
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I know how you can find out for yourself. Get Jesus' teachings and obey them. Jesus reveals himself to those who get his teachings and obeys them. See John 14:21, and John 7:17.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
mahasn ebn sawresho said:
I am a Christianbeliever-.
I know the Gospel also.
The problemhere-.
1. others don't believe in the Bible-
2. others don't accept the Bible as the sole source of evidence
3. the others are looking for a sensual and material-Guide.
4. others don't believe in the validity of written history
5. However I told them will not beleeue thee
6. for this reason
7. I leave this point of difference
And I tell them
8. u.
Lookatthe teachings of Jesus
9.-is it false teachings??
10-l-I tell them
Lookatthe qualities ofGod whoyou thinkthey are correct
11.-
If the teachings of Christ are complete and correct
12.-This means that Christ, who wrote the Gospels teachings are correct and acceptable
This is important in the agreement
13. n-I believe I leave this point of contention
Leave itto my heart
And keeps my mind
It relaxes to the teachings of Jesus
14. m-am I looked at Muhammad's teachings
And I looked at the teachings of some European thinkers
Through reading
15. m. but my soul rest to the teachings of Jesus
I wish I could haveunderstoodthese wordsinterlocutorsbrothers
16. the word of God, and God and his word will accept the soul by intellect
Thank you
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From what you say here, if I understand correctly what you are saying, then it sounds good.
It is beautiful that you say your soul rests to the teachings of Jesus. That is profound.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
muhammad_isa said:
You know why satan is cursed, don't you?

Arrogance and pride! "know it alls" who don't listen will fall in the same way .. you should know that!

I don't know everything, and nor do you .. this life is a journey in which we will gain wisdom, God willing. You can't gain anything if you are not prepared to learn from others ..

..well .. I suppose you can .. but the lone sheep is devoured by the wolf .. so be careful :eek:
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I have humbled myself and did what Jesus says to do.

Then Jesus saved me.

I want to help others to know God better too.
 
muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
I have humbled myself and did what Jesus says to do.

Then Jesus saved me.

I want to help others to know God better too.
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That's very good .. I'm pleased to hear it :)
..just don't stop learning, and 'shut your mind off' ..
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
I know how you can find out for yourself. Get Jesus' teachings and obey them. Jesus reveals himself to those who get his teachings and obeys them. See John 14:21, and John 7:17.
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What does that have to do with what I said? It doesn't make sense for Jesus' name to be the word of God when it is already Jesus. Not to mention a person can't be words. You should go with a title that makes more sense like--Alleged speaker of the word of God
 
Gnostic Seeker

Gnostic Seeker

Spiritual
Yes said:
Jesus is the only one who has seen God, and, Jesus is the only one who has made God known to us. God is invisible and lives in unapproachable light. Jesus is God made visible...with a body, and Jesus is God's voice; in the Old Testament and the New Testament.
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You just contradicted yourself.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
serp777 said:
What does that have to do with what I said? It doesn't make sense for Jesus' name to be the word of God when it is already Jesus. Not to mention a person can't be words. You should go with a title that makes more sense like--Alleged speaker of the word of God
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Jesus is the Word of God, and Jesus' name is the Word of God.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
Jesus is the Word of God, and Jesus' name is the Word of God.
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You must not have been able to see what i just wrote. I'll type it again. It doesn't make sense for Jesus' name to be the word of God when it is already Jesus. Not to mention a person can't be words. You should go with a title that makes more sense like--Alleged speaker of the word of God
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
serp777 said:
You must not have been able to see what i just wrote. I'll type it again. It doesn't make sense for Jesus' name to be the word of God when it is already Jesus. Not to mention a person can't be words. You should go with a title that makes more sense like--Alleged speaker of the word of God
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Just because you say it doesn't make sense does not mean it doesn't make sense.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
Just because you say it doesn't make sense does not mean it doesn't make sense.
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Well i didn't just say it i explained it. A person doesn't consist of words. Tell me, how can a person consist of words?

Also i think my crusader is superior to yours.
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Yes said:
From what you say here, if I understand correctly what you are saying, then it sounds good.
It is beautiful that you say your soul rests to the teachings of Jesus. That is profound.
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Yes-thatis a spiritualresttothe teachings ofJesus-.
Without the teachings of Jesus the world is a jungle of almfentrsin
-I haveJesus cameinto the world
And his teachings-I learned humanity-
Mercy and love
Before Jesus was walking in the darkness of the world
After Jesus was there light teachings
But the people don't want the light
The reason the Qur'an
Attempting to obscure the teachings of Jesus about the world
This is what I believe
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

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muhammad_isa said:
That's very good .. I'm pleased to hear it :)
..just don't stop learning, and 'shut your mind off' ..
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Well Ifilledmy mind
And a comparison of the teachings of Jesus
And the teachings of Muhammad
I have found that the teachings of Muhammad are not true
But the teachings of Jesus are true
And also found that the teachings of Muhammad where verses of the Jinn
I found that the devil Muhammad said they try lyrics
And also found that the teachings of Jesus is from God
They reflect the qualities of God who believe
Now what say your mind???
 
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