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Should pot be legalized?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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I think it should be legalized. The government can regulate it and can tax it, and thus make sure it hasn't been laced with other chemicals and is safe and can also make money off of it. Also, hemp is so useful, and right now is hardly being used. We can make paper, cloth, clothing, etc, etc, etc, with hemp. I think we could save so many trees by using hemp (which grows so much faster than trees do) as a paper product.
Engyo
Prince of Dorkness!
Personally, I look at marijuana as no more dangerous or destructive than alcohol. I also favor a long-term strategy of decriminalization of drugs in general; but for a variety of social reasons. I like England's approach of treating the whole issue as a medical problem rather than a criminal one. I think we would be much better served this way; less stress on courts and prisons, much higher probablilty of persons whose addictions can be cured being cured, and better management of those whose addictions aren't curable. It also takes away one of the primary funding sources of organized crime, from local areas all the way to international cartels and revolutionary groups.
Yes, I know this isn't as rosy as painted here, and brings its own set of problems. However, I think that we can work this in such a way as to come out with a net positive in the end, on the social scale. In general, I don't think that legislating morality is all that successful.
Yes, I know this isn't as rosy as painted here, and brings its own set of problems. However, I think that we can work this in such a way as to come out with a net positive in the end, on the social scale. In general, I don't think that legislating morality is all that successful.
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
"no more dangerous than alcohol,"
Alcohol is a poison. Have you never read the studies of what alcohol does to your body?
I think pot should only be legalized for medicinal uses.
Alcohol is a poison. Have you never read the studies of what alcohol does to your body?
I think pot should only be legalized for medicinal uses.
Engyo
Prince of Dorkness!
I know what alcohol does. I wasn't commenting on that, but the disparity between the approaches to alcohol and marijuana. If alcohol, with all we know about it, can be legal as well as a source of tax revenue, why not marijuana also? Conversely, if marijuana needs to be criminalized, then alcohol probably should be too given its known dangers.
Alcohol has health benefits in small amounts. I imagine that marijuana might be found to do the same, if studied properly. This brings up the questions of use vs. abuse. Alcohol, used responsibly, isn't *necessarily* harmful. I believe that marijuana *could be* the same. Of course this can't be proven until the laws are changed.
Alcohol, abused, contributes directly to far more deaths per year than any of the illegal drugs do. Yet we don't even strictly enforce the laws we have now on alcohol use. I'd really like to see John Ashcroft and co. go after alcohol abusers the same way they go after medical marijuana users.
Alcohol has health benefits in small amounts. I imagine that marijuana might be found to do the same, if studied properly. This brings up the questions of use vs. abuse. Alcohol, used responsibly, isn't *necessarily* harmful. I believe that marijuana *could be* the same. Of course this can't be proven until the laws are changed.
Alcohol, abused, contributes directly to far more deaths per year than any of the illegal drugs do. Yet we don't even strictly enforce the laws we have now on alcohol use. I'd really like to see John Ashcroft and co. go after alcohol abusers the same way they go after medical marijuana users.
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
Druidus
Keeper of the Grove
All short term, like alcohol.
I've never seen this. If it happens, it most likely occurs with alcohol too, as the symptom isn't drug specific.
The same thing can happen to alcohol. Also, notice they said may. I can say that something may happen, and when it turns out that it can't, I'm not wrong.
Can I remember what I've learned if I am drunk? Also, I want to see the research of theirs. As a young person, I know that I would never use harder drugs, and almost all of my friends agree, even the ones who regularily smoke pot. The only one who doesn't agree does acid, and he started acid first.
This is still short-term. In fact, alcohols effect on driving is much worse.
I agree that smoking marijuana is wrong if you are pregnant, same as with alcohol or cigarettes. However, again with the may. The results must be either assumptions or non-conclusive.
People with such problems as poor blood supply shouldn't smoke marijuana, simple as that. Your heart rate goes up when you watch suspense or horror, or even when you laugh. Should these be prohibited?
The evidence that marijuana effects the lungs at all is non-existent. Even if it does harm the lungs more because they hold it in longer, you could do the same with cigarettes, should they be illegal?
First of all, so can cigarettes. Also, no evidence is shown that proves it causes cancer, we have only seen pre-cancerous, and I have looked at the research of this. Apparently, these pre-cancerous cells occured only in the people that smoked high amounts of marijuana, often at least a join a day. This is FAR from regular. Most people smoke only one or two every two weeks.
Many people are introduced to tobacco or alcohol through peers as well. You don't just go up to a stranger and have them ask you to smoke marijuana. There is little peer pressure involved. When I used to not want to smoke pot, all of the people in my school didn't pressure me to do so.
Again, this requires MANY, MANY high-doses of marijuana, if it happens at all. Notice that these people have mentioned no research to suggest that this happens at all. In reality, we refer to burnout as the tired feeling you might get after smoking marijuana.
Many nutrients are stored in fat cells as well. Other drugs are too. For instance, alcohol. What's wrong with this?
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
More effects of Marijauna on the body.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/marijuana4.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/marijuana4.htm
Druidus
Keeper of the Grove
Why should marijuana be legalized? It has many valuable medical uses, is relatively safe, and prohibition of the drug not only is ineffective, its costly and dangerous. In the past year 20 million Americans have used marijuana, and 11 million continue to do so regularly. Marijuana is one of the most popular recreational drugs, ranking right behind alcohol and tobacco, two substances scientifically regarded as more hazardous. Marijuana is far less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. Around 50,000 people die each year from alcohol poisoning. Similarly, more than 400,000 deaths each year are attributed to tobacco smoking. By comparison, marijuana is non-toxic and cannot cause death by overdose (NORML, 2002) Many myths circulate about the safety of marijuana, such that it causes brain damage, it impairs the immune system, it lowers sperm counts, and that it leads to use of more harmful drugs. All of these claims are false. Based on experiments conducted on monkeys, researchers found that animals, when exposed to tetrahydrocannabinol (the active ingredient in marijuana, also known as THC) would be adversely affected in learning, memory, and have more diseases. However it took up to 1000x the dosage needed to produce a psychoactive effect, and the dosage had to be taken every day.
Faust
Active Member
Prohibition of anything in demand creates a black market and thus increases criminal activity exponentially. You also create a forbidden fruit mystique.
Perhaps some things are better dealt with in society in a controlled permissive manner.
( And you just can't beat a good buzz.):jiggy:
Perhaps some things are better dealt with in society in a controlled permissive manner.
( And you just can't beat a good buzz.):jiggy:
Michelle
We are all related
I think it should be legalized. Druidus pointed out many postive effects of it. There are a lot of people that use it or should use it medically speaking. But I think it causes cancer when inhaled. Though most of the other claims of it causing harm are biased opinions .
Anything in excess is bad for us but most people don't sit around and smoke an ounce a day. Most of the people that I know that are long term users smoke less than the equivalent of a half a cigarrette a day. And have for many years and live productive lives.
Anything in excess is bad for us but most people don't sit around and smoke an ounce a day. Most of the people that I know that are long term users smoke less than the equivalent of a half a cigarrette a day. And have for many years and live productive lives.
Anything that gives you a false sense of euphoria can be dangerous. Trust me I have felt just about anything you can imagine. I do believe that people should have the freedom to decide what they want to injest. What if we legalized everything, taxed it, and used the money to educate people on the effects of all of it?
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
Thank you. You never run out of frubals, there must be another reason why you can't give them. i.e. you can't give frubals to a person you just gave them to.robtex said: