Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Nehustan said:I won't dispute any of your last post...in fact it serves a constant source of amusement to me and others. God willing we will overcome the humour when it becomes dark....
I did say I hope that when the humour becomes dark (i.e. the 70,000 lay dead) we will see the lack of humour and have mercy on the remaining Yahoud. As I said Allah has guaranteed their protection in the Quran.
Nehustan said:I don't want to point this out....but you suddenly make out 'Hashem' to be almost personified, and you'll get no argument from me on that (Jahweh/Keterim/Adam Kadmon). Of course Allah/Eloah has no form and thus won't be fighting against Jeheshuah. You may find that Jeheshuah is at the right side of the big 'Iam' (but hey all Musa heard was a voice), the unfortunate part of this is two missed prophets later....it may well be too late to listen to the big 'I am' about Eloah/Allah.
Nehustan said:News Flash...the war IS happening. Let me put a moot point to you...what if the big 'I am' (HaShem) clued in a whole other load of people and entered into covenants with them too. Let me extend the hypothesis, would 'HaShem' not be a little annoyed that his chosen people had ignored the 'phone call' twice when they (or at least their learned) knew who was calling?
jewscout said:no we were originally talking about the new PA Foriegn Minister talking about a map w/ no Israel on it.
HaShem is YHVH, the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
unless that "new jerusalem" comes complete w/ it's own Beit HaMikdash (per the prophecy in Ezekiel), yes i will still feel compelled to see a Temple in it's proper place.
if Moshiach is there, it will be there too. Otherwise, in the Jewish tradition, he's not Moshiach.
jewscout said:...if HaShem revealed Himself to others, that's their deal, but He made it very clear that for the Jewish people it's the Torah, "All this word which I command you, that shall ye observe to do; thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. " Deut. 13:1
and the texts of the Gospels as well as the Quran go are in violation of this verse.
if it works for others, fine, but the HaShem made it very clear to the Jewish people what He expects from them.
believe it or not you can choose to follow other faiths and still be doing the will of G-d. There is no one true path for all.
jewscout said:unless that "new jerusalem" comes complete w/ it's own Beit HaMikdash (per the prophecy in Ezekiel), yes i will still feel compelled to see a Temple in it's proper place.
if Moshiach is there, it will be there too. Otherwise, in the Jewish tradition, he's not Moshiach.
jewscout said:well, just as any text, i use the language of man to discuss the action of HaShem.
again, tho, we are dealing w/ 2 differing points of view on this. But if the Jewish people adhere to the Torah of HaShem they have no man to fear, not one. He will protect the Jewish people, even when all nations are turned against Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:7-8 for example).
but as i have stated before, war does not have to happen (Isaiah 11), there is always personal choice.