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John the Baptist accepted Islam

If you follow the way of Christ then his way was Judaism, right
If he was a Jew, then why not to follow his way which is Judaism.
Because he established the new covenant.Most of the laws Christians follow are from Judaism but some have been done away with.Like the kosher laws,sabbath day,circumcision etc..
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Because he established the new covenant.Most of the laws Christians follow are from Judaism but some have been done away with.Like the kosher laws,sabbath day,circumcision etc..

So Jesus kept the sabbath for himself as a Jew and then throw it away for the case of his followers,Does that make sense to you.
 
Of course it does.Jesus and his followers all kept the Sabbath.He followed all the laws to show the Jews.It was when they challenged him on technical things that he showed his wisdom.Like when the Jews tried to say that Jesus and his disciples were working while preaching and getting something to eat.Jesus checked them all real quick.Jesus kept following the laws but established the new covenant with his disciples.Jesus had the Lords evening meal,after they had the passover meal, on Nissan 14th in the month of Abib.The new covenant did not go into effect until 50 days after Jesus was resurrected,10 days after he ascended.This was called the Pentecost of 33 C.E.
 
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So Jesus kept the sabbath for himself as a Jew and then throw it away for the case of his followers,Does that make sense to you.
Of course it does.Jesus and his followers all kept the Sabbath.He followed all the laws to show the Jews.It was when they challenged him on technical things that he showed his wisdom.Like when the Jews tried to say that Jesus and his disciples were working while preaching and getting something to eat.Jesus checked them all real quick.Jesus kept following the laws but established the new covenant with his disciples.Jesus had the Lords evening meal,after they had the passover meal, on Nissan 14th in the month of Abib.The new covenant did not go into effect until 50 days after Jesus was resurrected,10 days after he ascended.This was called the Pentecost of 33 C.E.
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
While i was reading some verses in the bible in its Arabic form i came to
one verse which doesn't give the same meaning as in the English bible.

It is Matthew 4:12 which says in English that John the baptist was captured
and Jesus then started to deliver his message to the public.

Matthew 4:12
When Jesus heard that John had been put in prison, he withdrew to Galilee.

In Arabic form it says that John the baptist accepted Islam and not as in English
was put in prison or captured.

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?????? ?????? - ??? ?? ????

The world
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means accepted Islam or became a Muslim

See the meaning for the Arabic word
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here


I investigated the greek word in matthew 4:12 and found it to have
the meaning of surrendering which is the same meaning for Islam in Arabic.

12 Now when Jesus heard that John had been taken into custody, He withdrew into Galilee;

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Matthew 4:12 NAS - Interlinear Bible - Online Bible Study Tools

The words "into custody" was translated from the Greek word
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Paradidomi which means surrendering among other meanings

Read here What Does it Mean to Surrender All to God? | eHow

Islam Explained

thats a nice theory, but Islam didnt exist in the first century.

Seriously, who comes up with this stuff??? :sarcastic
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Of course it does.Jesus and his followers all kept the Sabbath.He followed all the laws to show the Jews.It was when they challenged him on technical things that he showed his wisdom.Like when the Jews tried to say that Jesus and his disciples were working while preaching and getting something to eat.Jesus checked them all real quick.Jesus kept following the laws but established the new covenant with his disciples.Jesus had the Lords evening meal,after they had the passover meal, on Nissan 14th in the month of Abib.The new covenant did not go into effect until 50 days after Jesus was resurrected,10 days after he ascended.This was called the Pentecost of 33 C.E.

Do you believe that Jesus was killed on the cross ?
Do you believe Jesus and God is one ?
Do you believe Jesus is God's son ?
 
Do you believe that Jesus was killed on the cross ?
Do you believe Jesus and God is one ?
Do you believe Jesus is God's son ?
No,I do not believe Jesus was killed on a cross.It was a stake or pole.It is called stauros in Greek.

Yes,I believe Jesus and God are one,spiritually,not literally.


Yes,I believe Jesus is God's Son.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Because you think Islam is a land or a tribe or a person, but it isn't,
Islam is Paradidomi, it is what is our relation to the creator as to surrender to his will, not to Christ, Not to Muhammed, Not to Moses but to the creator if in a case that you believe there is one.

No, I don't think Islam is a land or a tribe or a person. Islam is a religion, distinct in its forms, structures, beliefs, and ways of forming community, from other religions. It's perspective of God is distinct from and irreconcilable with other religious perspectives.

Because that's what Islam is, you cannot state that John the Baptist embraced Islam for a couple of reasons:
1) Islam did not exist when John was alive.
2) John was a Jew -- not a Muslim.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No,I do not believe Jesus was killed on a cross.It was a stake or pole.It is called stauros in Greek.

Yes,I believe Jesus and God are one,spiritually,not literally.


Yes,I believe Jesus is God's Son.

So the God in flesh was killed by the sinners on a pole and God sacrificed himself because he want to save the sinners from punishment, right

I think that still make sense to you

You believe that Jesus and God are one whereas you believe that Jesus is the only mediator to God, still that make sense to you.

Then we have the father`and the son,

Do you follow the son or the father or you follow the son to reach the father while both the son and the father are the same but still the father is greater than the son, that make sense to you
 
So the God in flesh was killed by the sinners on a pole and God sacrificed himself because he want to save the sinners from punishment, right

I think that still make sense to you

You believe that Jesus and God are one whereas you believe that Jesus is the only mediator to God, still that make sense to you.

Then we have the father`and the son,

Do you follow the son or the father or you follow the son to reach the father while both the son and the father are the same but still the father is greater than the son, that make sense to you
Jesus is not God.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
So you think human needs a mediator between him and God for salvation.
Why not Moses ?
Why not Judaism ?
Don't you think that the teachings are the same and the messengers only delivered it.
Since Jesus is God, what mediator would that be??? :shrug:
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
So the God in flesh was killed by the sinners on a pole and God sacrificed himself because he want to save the sinners from punishment, right

I think that still make sense to you

You believe that Jesus and God are one whereas you believe that Jesus is the only mediator to God, still that make sense to you.

Then we have the father`and the son,

Do you follow the son or the father or you follow the son to reach the father while both the son and the father are the same but still the father is greater than the son, that make sense to you

the bible does not support the idea that Jesus is God...it is only teachings by 'some' christians who make that claim.

But the bible does not make that claim anywhere.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
And what was the religion of Jesus, was he following Judaism or Christianity or he has no religion ?
Jesus was a Jew. And, since the continuing church is the body of Christ, Christ continues to teach his followers through the church. The church teaches that Christians don't have to be Jews. It was a step that made Xy pan-cultural.
 
So the God in flesh was killed by the sinners on a pole and God sacrificed himself because he want to save the sinners from punishment, right

I think that still make sense to you

You believe that Jesus and God are one whereas you believe that Jesus is the only mediator to God, still that make sense to you.

Then we have the father`and the son,

Do you follow the son or the father or you follow the son to reach the father while both the son and the father are the same but still the father is greater than the son, that make sense to you
It's been good discussing with you.I must go now.I have to get my Barbecue pit ready.I am going to smoke some meats and drink some beers.Time to relax outdoors:) I shall speak to you later on.
 
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