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Why do muslims hate democracy

YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Sleeppy said:
Are you familiar with Hitler? John Smith? Justin Beiber?-- This is pretty idiotic.
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Au contraire, it's not idiotic, it's the face of fanaticism (in all its self-righteous glory).

The main reason why Muslims are against democracy, in general terms, is because it is not an Islamic concept.

The question isn't really that complicated, LOL.
 
Al-Fatihah

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Sleeppy said:
Are you familiar with Hitler? John Smith? Justin Beiber?-- This is pretty idiotic.
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Response: I am familiar with the fact that you dodged answering the challenge, thus confirming your denial that the challenge proves the Qur'an is true. Additionally, no source on the planet says that Hitler, John Smith, or any person you think of, ever conquered and ruled a nation by inspiring followers with words that goes against their liking, nor can you quote and prove otherwise. Thus refuting yourself and further establishing my point.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: I am familiar with the fact that you dodged answering the challenge, thus confirming your denial that the challenge proves the Qur'an is true. Additionally, no source on the planet says that Hitler, John Smith, or any person you think of, ever conquered and ruled a nation by inspiring followers with words that goes against their liking, nor can you quote and prove otherwise. Thus refuting yourself and further establishing my point.
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Don't you find it odd that no one ever agrees with you? Your certainty is instructive, to say the least.
 
R

Rotcha

Member
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: Likewise.
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I am a Christophobe because i disagree with Christianity. In the same way some are Islamophobic for disagreeing with Islam. That makes me racist, because i've learned that religion is a race and not a belief.. :rolleyes:... right???

Just a little joke there. But you get what i mean :bounce
 
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Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: I am familiar with the fact that you dodged answering the challenge, thus confirming your denial that the challenge proves the Qur'an is true. Additionally, no source on the planet says that Hitler, John Smith, or any person you think of, ever conquered and ruled a nation by inspiring followers with words that goes against their liking, nor can you quote and prove otherwise. Thus refuting yourself and further establishing my point.
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No.. I answered the "challenge". It's idiotic (which isn't surprising). The idea that you can be inspired by words that go completely against your liking, is pretty retarded-- and unfounded. The idea that Muhammed was the only person to ever inspire a nation according to wordplay, is also unfounded.

Hitler inspired an entire nation of Germans to go around imprisoning and killing their neighbors, using deception where there was mass ignorance and indifference. Muhammed did likewise; he used deception and mass ignorance. IF I AM LYING, MAY ALLAH STRIKE ME DOWN NOW!!! -- You're ignorant, so you are easily deceived. But, this isn't restricted to Muslims, it is a human reality.

The reason the Quran hasn't inspired the rest of us against our liking, is because we aren't susceptible to the deception you've inherited. I live in a nation where there are many Qurans, and many more Bibles.. And yet, this nation and the surrounding nations have not been inspired to the scale that any Muslim has conquered them. It's not a "challenge".. It's just stupidity.
 
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Al-Fatihah

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
YmirGF said:
Don't you find it odd that no one ever agrees with you? Your certainty is instructive, to say the least.
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Response: Truth is based on evidence, not an agreement. And since you have no evidence against the Qur'an challenge, then your own failure makes my argument. So the better question is why you base your logic on what others agree to, rather than actual evidence?
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: Truth is based on evidence, not an agreement. And since you have no evidence against the Qur'an challenge, then your own failure makes my argument. So the better question is why you base your logic on what others agree to, rather than actual evidence?
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Hahahahaha. You almost make it sound like the Qur'an challenge is meant seriously. Bravo. Keep up the good work.
 
Al-Fatihah

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Sleeppy said:
No.. I answered the "challenge". It's idiotic (which isn't surprising). The idea that you can be inspired by words that go completely against your liking, is pretty retarded-- and unfounded. The idea that Muhammed was the only person to ever inspire a nation according to wordplay, is also unfounded.

Hitler inspired an entire nation of Germans to go around imprisoning and killing their neighbors, using deception where there was mass ignorance and indifference. Muhammed did likewise; he used deception and mass ignorance. IF I AM LYING, MAY ALLAH STRIKE ME DOWN NOW!!! -- You're ignorant, so you are easily deceived. But, this isn't restricted to Muslims, it is a human reality.

The reason the Quran hasn't inspired the rest of us against our liking, is because we aren't susceptible to the deception you've inherited. I live in a nation where there are many Qurans, and many more Bibles.. And yet, this nation and the surrounding nations have not been inspired to the scale that any Muslim has conquered them. It's not a "challenge".. It's just stupidity.
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Response; You answered nothing. For the challenge clearly states for YOU YOURSELF to inspire enough followers to conquer and rule a nation, or even just the street you live on, by using human-made speech/literature that goes against the wants of a mass of people, as proof that such an act is humanly possible. So have you conquered and ruled a nation? NO. Have you conquered and ruled the street you live on? NO. Thus you've done absolutely nothing in answering the challenge and have been dodging it from the beginning. Thus your ducking and dodging to attempt the challenge once again confirms your denial to the fact that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Harikrish said:
Islam is a complete religion. .
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Yes we know. One that requires fanaticism, fundamentalism, sectarian violence, and lack of education due to fanaticism.


I will leave terrorism out because that address the illiterate people who cannot understand the many passages in the koran who pervert its meaning that make no sense at all in many places.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
YmirGF said:
Don't you find it odd that no one ever agrees with you? Your certainty is instructive, to say the least.
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Very combative. Also plays the race card.

Would not be surprised if he is already on a known list of those supporting our enemies.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: Truth is based on evidence, not an agreement. And since you have no evidence against the Qur'an challenge, then your own failure makes my argument. So the better question is why you base your logic on what others agree to, rather than actual evidence?
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Easy, tiger. I need to write my book before I can convince my followers to violently overthrow the neighbourhood. I'll get back to you in a year or two and we can determine whether I passed the challenge or not.

Couple of questions;
1) Am I allowed to use indentured servants to do the fighting for me, or do these followers need to be willing?
2) Can I choose a street which is largely chaotic already and ripe for the picking, or does it need to be my street? We have a well-educated population here, and I surmise they might be difficult to both convince to follow me, or to overthrow?
3) Can I in fact get ghost writers in to write my book?
 
Looncall

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Al-Fatihah said:
Response: The originator of creation will naturally know what law is best for humankind than any person. So only through Allah's law can a person have the best rights. Not through democracy, which is subjective and can always change by just a vote.
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How convenient for muslim clerics. Whole populations handed to them bound and gagged.

To bad muslim clerics are such a corrupt lot.
 
Al-Fatihah

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
lewisnotmiller said:
Easy, tiger. I need to write my book before I can convince my followers to violently overthrow the neighbourhood. I'll get back to you in a year or two and we can determine whether I passed the challenge or not.

Couple of questions;
1) Am I allowed to use indentured servants to do the fighting for me, or do these followers need to be willing?
2) Can I choose a street which is largely chaotic already and ripe for the picking, or does it need to be my street? We have a well-educated population here, and I surmise they might be difficult to both convince to follow me, or to overthrow?
3) Can I in fact get ghost writers in to write my book?
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Response: You can use whatever you like, as long as it is an attempt to inspire followers with speech that goes against their liking. So use whatever. For no matter what you use, will fail anyway, thus supporting the fact that Qur'an is true. You disagree? Then answer the challenge and prove differently.
 
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