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Salt Water Powered Engine?

Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Considering we're going to have more salt water than ever in the conceivable near future, it seems like a good plan.
 
4consideration

4consideration

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Premium Member
Willamena said:
Considering we're going to have more salt water than ever in the conceivable near future, it seems like a good plan.
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I was thinking that very thing. With all the concern about rising sea levels, it seems extracting some of that water would be welcome.

(edit: Come see me in coastal Florida. We have lots of it around here. :))
 
HonestJoe

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
It isn't powered by salt water as such - certainly not in the way I'm sure you're imagining, where you could top it up at the beach. ;) The liquids in the battery would be specially formulated (much like modern motor fuel is).

The fundamental concept of this kind of battery is known and used but the idea of it being both light and powerful enough to run a car isn't. This is all very speculative and with the company keeping the details under-wraps and apparently no independent review who knows how legitimate it is.

Personally I'm suspicious since it wouldn't be the first time a scam was run on the basis of amazing technical claims under an eye-catching sports-car body. Legitimate motoring innovations tend to start out in much more mundane chassis'.
 
4consideration

4consideration

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Premium Member
HonestJoe said:
It isn't powered by salt water as such - certainly not in the way I'm sure you're imagining, where you could top it up at the beach. ;) The liquids in the battery would be specially formulated (much like modern motor fuel is).

The fundamental concept of this kind of battery is known and used but the idea of it being both light and powerful enough to run a car isn't. This is all very speculative and with the company keeping the details under-wraps and apparently no independent review who knows how legitimate it is.

Personally I'm suspicious since it wouldn't be the first time a scam was run on the basis of amazing technical claims under an eye-catching sports-car body. Legitimate motoring innovations tend to start out in much more mundane chassis'.
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I was mostly joking about the salt water from the beach, except I think it's possible salt water extracted from the ocean could be processed for that purpose.

It seems this vehicle got road approval in Germany, so I'm guessing there is something to it being a workable scenario -- although it being affordable down the road is still a question for me. Quant e-Sportlimousine gets road legal in Europe ahead of production run - Autoblog
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The evil conspiracy of Big Oil, Big Nuclear & Big Coal forced government to pass the
laws of thermodynamics, which stand in the way of water engines. We must get
them repealed so that water engines & free energy machines will be legal!

Some tip-offs of fraud:
- Sounds too good to be true.
- Inspiring music & special effects
- No engineering info about the new technology
- No mention of the new technology in normal reliable sources
- Celebrity endorsement
- Conspiracy claims

We have 3 out of 6 of the above, folks!
 
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Alt Thinker

Alt Thinker

Older than the hills
HonestJoe said:
It isn't powered by salt water as such - certainly not in the way I'm sure you're imagining, where you could top it up at the beach. ;) The liquids in the battery would be specially formulated (much like modern motor fuel is).

The fundamental concept of this kind of battery is known and used but the idea of it being both light and powerful enough to run a car isn't. This is all very speculative and with the company keeping the details under-wraps and apparently no independent review who knows how legitimate it is.

Personally I'm suspicious since it wouldn't be the first time a scam was run on the basis of amazing technical claims under an eye-catching sports-car body. Legitimate motoring innovations tend to start out in much more mundane chassis'.
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To amplify what Honest Joe said, the nanoflowcells that provide the power are storage batteries. Ionized saltwater is used to store an electric charge. The batteries need to be charged up like any other batteries. it is claimed that saltwater batteries are more efficient than other batteries of equivalent weight. But basically it is another electric car.
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
This is 40 year old debunked science. You can make it, but it's like fuel cells. It's not efficient enough to justify the output and cost.
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Wirey said:
This is 40 year old debunked science. You can make it, but it's like fuel cells. It's not efficient enough to justify the output and cost.
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You genuinely think that the technology has not advanced in 40 years? /me consults her smart phone.
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
"The materials used for construction – not to mention the clever prototype technology providing the car’s propulsion – are likely to make the e-Sportlimousine very expensive indeed.

If a slower McLaren P1 costs more than a million dollars, you can easily expect the e-Sportlimousine to cost in the neighbourhood of $1.7 million, if not more.

These are early days in the car's development, of course. Although it’s been approved for road use in Europe, don’t expect a production version any time soon."
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Gee, seems like I'm a little short of cash right now. Take a promissory note?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Alt Thinker said:
To amplify what Honest Joe said, the nanoflowcells that provide the power are storage batteries. Ionized saltwater is used to store an electric charge. The batteries need to be charged up like any other batteries. it is claimed that saltwater batteries are more efficient than other batteries of equivalent weight. But basically it is another electric car.
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People are always making ambitious claims.
Remember how the Segway was going to revolutionize transportation?
 
Alt Thinker

Alt Thinker

Older than the hills
Skwim said:
"The materials used for construction – not to mention the clever prototype technology providing the car’s propulsion – are likely to make the e-Sportlimousine very expensive indeed.

If a slower McLaren P1 costs more than a million dollars, you can easily expect the e-Sportlimousine to cost in the neighbourhood of $1.7 million, if not more.

These are early days in the car's development, of course. Although it’s been approved for road use in Europe, don’t expect a production version any time soon."
source

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Gee, seems like I'm a little short of cash right now. Take a promissory note?
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And that is not even counting the extension cord!
 
Alt Thinker

Alt Thinker

Older than the hills
Revoltingest said:
Pyramid generators are the future.
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I like caterpillar generators.

C833510


What were you expecting to see?
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Revoltingest said:
The evil conspiracy of Big Oil, Big Nuclear & Big Coal forced government to pass the
laws of thermodynamics, which stand in the way of water engines. We must get
them repealed so that water engines & free energy machines will be legal!

Some tip-offs of fraud:
- Sounds too good to be true.
- Inspiring music & special effects
- No engineering info about the new technology
- No mention of the new technology in normal reliable sources
- Celebrity endorsement
- Conspiracy claims

We have 3 out of 6 of the above, folks!
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Here's an understated lesson in BS detection for all the kids out there.
 
Majikthise

Majikthise

nude
The only way i could see an engine "run" on water is through on board electrolysis and burning the hydrogen or steam power generated from thermonuclear (lile subs or carriers).
 
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