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The Paradox of Omniscience

Shiranui117

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Philotech said:
Omniscience is a hard concept to tackle and when it is tackled(rationally) and brought to the ground it is a total wreck.

Omniscience like omnipotence creates the most absurd paradox in history next to infinities.

If a being(god) was omniscient it would have the ability to know ALL things which is what omni means. Nothing can be excluded, it cannot just perceive and be aware of the choices of all things, it must actually know which choice is going to be made. If omniscience is anything but this it is not omniscience but omni-perception.

To complete this, omniscience must include awareness of the past, future and present. All three modes of existence(or past existence) must become fully aware to the entity. The issue though of course is that it must also be able to know which events will occur and no exceptions can be made. A single exception denies the entity of omniscience.

This odd part about this is that the being MUST know it's own past, present and future choices. Everything this entity does must be known including actions that have not even entered the present.

If this entities entire life and choices are predetermined it cannot maintain free will or the ability to chose. This would also bring into question the moral nature of such a being for when it does make actions and claims to be omniscient.
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Just because God knows it doesn't mean that He forced us into making those choices. His omniscience reflects what we choose, not the other way around. Our present and future actions give rise to God's prior knowledge of it.
 
ametist

ametist

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The Sum of Awe said:
We will choose one path in real life, not all of them. God cannot see what one path we will decide to take?
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Ok. Then. If you examine closely, will of omnicient god( the creator) implies you have chosen all of them. Your will differenciates one and that is your concious conjuction point with god determines how much and in what regard you will be effected.
Add all the other features god into your understanding including the purpose of creation to make better sense of this.
 
ametist

ametist

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Ouroboros said:
And does God know about which choice I make or not?

You're keep on talking about knowing about all possible choices, but keep on avoiding the issue of knowing the factual choice.

The whole chess player part is an analogy to compare to how it would be to be an omniscient being. The omniscient chess player knows all possible moves, but he also knows what move will be done of all those possible moves. Is God that kind or is he of a lesser omniscient kind?

To me, the way you describe God is nothing but God as the Akashic Record.
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There is a whole post intended to explain how god is not just one feature of itself but you chose to conclude god is an akashic record.
I dont have anything to add.
 
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