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No more suffering

ejalfa

Member
Sufferring

Jesus did not blame God for the suffering that surrounded him. Instead, he did the following.

Jesus showed that God does not punish innocent people by causing them to suffer. Jesus cured the sick, the lame, and the blind. (Matthew 15:30) The miracles that he performed teach us two significant facts: First, Jesus used God’s power to alleviate suffering, not to cause it. Second, Jesus did not heal people dispassionately. When he saw people suffering, he was “moved with pity” for them. (Matthew 20:29-34) Jesus perfectly reflected his Father’s feelings about suffering. Therefore, from Jesus’ speech and actions, we learn that God is grieved by the pain He sees and that He wants to relieve it.—John 14:7, 9.

Jesus identified the real source of much human suffering—Satan the Devil. “That one,” said Jesus, “was a manslayer when he began.” (John 8:44) Jesus also identified Satan the Devil as “the ruler of this world” and the one who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.”—John 12:31; Revelation 12:9.

Jesus gave us hope of a time when all suffering will end. He taught his followers to pray: “Our Father in the heavens, . . . let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.” (Matthew 6:9, 10) When God’s Kingdom comes, there will be no more suffering on earth, just as there is no suffering in heaven.

In a revelation that he gave to the apostle John, Jesus described what life will be like for those living under God’s Kingdom. At that time, God “will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”—Revelation 1:1; 21:3, 4.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Sufferring

Jesus did not blame God for the suffering that surrounded him. Instead, he did the following.

Jesus showed that God does not punish innocent people by causing them to suffer.
Evidently he forgot about all the innocent children god killed in the many O.T. catastrophes.

Jesus cured the sick, the lame, and the blind. (Matthew 15:30)
Which god allowed to occur.

The miracles that he performed teach us two significant facts: First, Jesus used God’s power to alleviate suffering, not to cause it.
Suffering god allowed to occur.

Second, Jesus did not heal people dispassionately. When he saw people suffering, he was “moved with pity” for them. (Matthew 20:29-34) Jesus perfectly reflected his Father’s feelings about suffering.
You do realize don't you that many common folk have the very same reaction as Jesus. And I highly doubt that anyone who allowed people to suffer would also have pity for them. It's nonsensical.

Therefore, from Jesus’ speech and actions, we learn that God is grieved by the pain He sees and that He wants to relieve it.—John 14:7, 9.
Yet god does not. He allows his "son" to aid only a select few. All the rest throughout the world continued in their pain.

Jesus identified the real source of much human suffering—Satan the Devil.
Reminds me of the old Flip Wilson escapist retort "The Devil made me do it."

“That one,” said Jesus, “was a manslayer when he began.” (John 8:44) Jesus also identified Satan the Devil as “the ruler of this world” and the one who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.”—John 12:31; Revelation 12:9.
So, if the Devil is the puppet master behind all the wrong people do would a fair and just god hold the Devil's puppets at fault? To my way of thinking he would not; just as you can't blame a rock for where it sits..

Jesus gave us hope of a time when all suffering will end. He taught his followers to pray: “Our Father in the heavens, . . . let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.” (Matthew 6:9, 10) When God’s Kingdom comes, there will be no more suffering on earth, just as there is no suffering in heaven.

In a revelation that he gave to the apostle John, Jesus described what life will be like for those living under God’s Kingdom. At that time, God “will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”—Revelation 1:1; 21:3, 4.
'Bout time. Far too many people have already suffered through his neglect.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Just what did you want to compare?

Perhaps the stated Christian interpretation of Jesus removing the Devil-caused suffering, with the Buddhist notion that a person can remove his or her own suffering without the need of any God? :shrug:
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Sufferring

Jesus did not blame God for the suffering that surrounded him. Instead, he did the following.

Jesus showed that God does not punish innocent people by causing them to suffer. Jesus cured the sick, the lame, and the blind. (Matthew 15:30) The miracles that he performed teach us two significant facts: First, Jesus used God’s power to alleviate suffering, not to cause it. Second, Jesus did not heal people dispassionately. When he saw people suffering, he was “moved with pity” for them. (Matthew 20:29-34) Jesus perfectly reflected his Father’s feelings about suffering. Therefore, from Jesus’ speech and actions, we learn that God is grieved by the pain He sees and that He wants to relieve it.—John 14:7, 9.

Jesus identified the real source of much human suffering—Satan the Devil. “That one,” said Jesus, “was a manslayer when he began.” (John 8:44) Jesus also identified Satan the Devil as “the ruler of this world” and the one who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.”—John 12:31; Revelation 12:9.

Jesus gave us hope of a time when all suffering will end. He taught his followers to pray: “Our Father in the heavens, . . . let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.” (Matthew 6:9, 10) When God’s Kingdom comes, there will be no more suffering on earth, just as there is no suffering in heaven.

In a revelation that he gave to the apostle John, Jesus described what life will be like for those living under God’s Kingdom. At that time, God “will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”—Revelation 1:1; 21:3, 4.

Too many facets for one thread.....choose one.
Healing....
The devil as a murderer....
Prophecy...

I could write a book to each facet.
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
Sufferring



Jesus identified the real source of much human suffering—Satan the Devil. “That one,” said Jesus, “was a manslayer when he began.” (John 8:44) Jesus also identified Satan the Devil as “the ruler of this world” and the one who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.”—John 12:31; Revelation 12:9.

I hate the notion of when fellow Christians blame the devil for all the suffering in the world. The devil only tempts people to sin. People sin. People cause others to suffer majority of the times.
 
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