murdocsvan
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I'd like to hear peoples thoeries on what "Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." means.
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The Number Of The Beast
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onmybelief
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jeffrey said:
How true. Only god knows the answer to the question of the significance of 666. People may make an educated guess but in the end it really is in God's hand.
The number seven, is often used to symbolize that which is complete, or perfect, in Gods eyes. so what does that tell us about 666 ohhhhh dear it misses the mark of perfection in a big way , 3 times for getting a point over i would say, so human goverments will always miss the mark of perfection , but no worries soon Gods goverment will step into the affairs of humans as Daniel 2;44 very kindly informs us.
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
SoyLeche
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Because, apparently, the number has been mistranslated. It should read 616 instead of 666Ormiston said:
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134
There's one place that talks about it. You can do more research if you so desire.
The best explanation of the number of the beast is the Jewish numerical system called the Gemetria system. This system is similar to the roman numerals concept, where letters also have a numerical equivalent. The Jewish system has 21 letters this is the same for the Greek 21 letters the English language also has equivalent letters for their Jewish and Greek counterparts.
The Number of the beast is a number of a man and we are called on to calculate the number of the beast:
Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
The answer is already given. It is up to the wise to find the name that makes up the letters that add up to the answer 666.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
The Number of the beast is a number of a man and we are called on to calculate the number of the beast:
Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
The answer is already given. It is up to the wise to find the name that makes up the letters that add up to the answer 666.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
I've missed the bus again. :banghead3well as the bible tells us the number is 666 it says a lot about manmade goverments ,man was not created to rule himself independant of God ,no matter how hard and sincere they may try. but no worries Jehovah God has it all in hand , his son Jesus christ is the one to rule in a just waySoyLeche said:
For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness, from now on and to time indefinite. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this. isaiah 9;6-7
(Daniel 2:44) "And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite...................... yes the kingdom is in the heavens and is all established since 1914 , and is ready to go into action against manmade rulership... not long to go now its all happening in these last days
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The Illuminati was founded May 1, 1776, which is inscribed in Roman numerals, on the base of the pyramid, on the American Dollar. The Illuminati and the Mason's were for the establishment of a "New World Order".kevmicsmi said:
Annuit Coeptis - Annuit (Announcing) Coeptis (Birth)
Novus Ordo Seclorum - Novus (New) Ordo (Order) Seclorum (World)
"Announcing the Birth of the New World Order"
At the base of the pyramid, 1776 is written in Roman numerals.
MDCCLXXVI - MDC (1600) CLX (160) XVI (16)
(1) numerical meaning is (beginning)
(666) is the number of the (beast)
"The Beginning of the Beast"
The male/female god Shiva is also represented in the pyramid shape with the eye at the top, or "head" of the pyramid.
Shiva is raising her right hand and has a mark on her forehead, which is a "Third Eye", or the "Mark of Shiva"
"Announcing the Birth of the New World Order" and "The Beginning of the Beast"
murdocsvan
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This is all very well, but maybe i should rephrase my question; WHY do you think 666 is the number? is it the amount of them? is it his symbol? is it his phone number?
TheTruthWillSetUFree
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III. THE NUMBER AND MARK OF THE BEAST
Two of the most important aspects of the beast's power are brought to light in Revelation 13: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." Revelation 13:16-18. So far in our study we have described nine identifying marks of the beast power and its application to the papacy. Right here we will add the tenth point to our list by explaining the number of his name.
According to Revelation 13:17, the number of his name will also be the number of a man. Undoubtedly this refers to the man who heads the beast power. The ancient method of deriving the number of a name is to take the numerical value of all letters and add them up to get the sum. If we want to apply this test to the papacy, we must find the official name of the pope, who is the head of his church. If this is the number of a man, it would naturally be the man who is the head of the organization.
It is interesting to note that there is an official Latin title for the pope, a title which has been granted by the Church itself. This title is found repeatedly in the publications of Rome. But in the weekly Catholic newspaper, Our Sunday Visitor, of April 1915, we have the interesting statement that the letters of the official title are inscribed in the pope's miter. Here is the actual quotation: "The letters inscribed in the pope's miter are these; Vicarius Filii Dei, which is the Latin for Ԗicar of the Son of God.' Catholics hold that the Church, which is a visible society, must have a visible head; Christ, before His ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative. Hence, to the Bishop of Rome as head of the church, was given the title, Ԗicar of Christ.'" At present the pope's miter does not contain the Latin title, but the words are incorporated into the coronation ceremonies of each newly crowned pope.
So with this official name of the pope in hand we can proceed to apply the test of the Scripture. How do we derive the number of his name? By getting the numerical value of the Roman numerals of the title Vicarius Filii Dei, we actually come to a definite number 666. Notice how it is worked out below as each letter is given its numerical value:
V - 5 F - 0 D - 500I - 1 I - 1 E - 0C - 100 L - 50 I - 1A - 0 I - 1R - 0 I - 1I - 1UorV - 5S - 0 112 + 53 + 501 = 666Someone might object that this could be a coincidental occurrence. We grant that it is possible for such a thing to be a mere happenstance if we had only this one mark of identity to lean upon. But the fact is that this is the tenth of a long list of characteristic marks which the Bible uses to identify the beast power. It only adds weight and strength to that which has already been said in making the application to the papal power. It is the capstone proof in conjunction with all the other marks laid down so clearly in the Scripture.
Two of the most important aspects of the beast's power are brought to light in Revelation 13: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." Revelation 13:16-18. So far in our study we have described nine identifying marks of the beast power and its application to the papacy. Right here we will add the tenth point to our list by explaining the number of his name.
According to Revelation 13:17, the number of his name will also be the number of a man. Undoubtedly this refers to the man who heads the beast power. The ancient method of deriving the number of a name is to take the numerical value of all letters and add them up to get the sum. If we want to apply this test to the papacy, we must find the official name of the pope, who is the head of his church. If this is the number of a man, it would naturally be the man who is the head of the organization.
It is interesting to note that there is an official Latin title for the pope, a title which has been granted by the Church itself. This title is found repeatedly in the publications of Rome. But in the weekly Catholic newspaper, Our Sunday Visitor, of April 1915, we have the interesting statement that the letters of the official title are inscribed in the pope's miter. Here is the actual quotation: "The letters inscribed in the pope's miter are these; Vicarius Filii Dei, which is the Latin for Ԗicar of the Son of God.' Catholics hold that the Church, which is a visible society, must have a visible head; Christ, before His ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative. Hence, to the Bishop of Rome as head of the church, was given the title, Ԗicar of Christ.'" At present the pope's miter does not contain the Latin title, but the words are incorporated into the coronation ceremonies of each newly crowned pope.
So with this official name of the pope in hand we can proceed to apply the test of the Scripture. How do we derive the number of his name? By getting the numerical value of the Roman numerals of the title Vicarius Filii Dei, we actually come to a definite number 666. Notice how it is worked out below as each letter is given its numerical value:
V - 5 F - 0 D - 500I - 1 I - 1 E - 0C - 100 L - 50 I - 1A - 0 I - 1R - 0 I - 1I - 1UorV - 5S - 0 112 + 53 + 501 = 666Someone might object that this could be a coincidental occurrence. We grant that it is possible for such a thing to be a mere happenstance if we had only this one mark of identity to lean upon. But the fact is that this is the tenth of a long list of characteristic marks which the Bible uses to identify the beast power. It only adds weight and strength to that which has already been said in making the application to the papal power. It is the capstone proof in conjunction with all the other marks laid down so clearly in the Scripture.
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TheTruthWillSetUFree said:
Taken from Joe Crews' "The Beast, the Dragon, and the Woman" http://www.mobxpozd.com/bdw2.html