This has been on my mind for a while and I wanted to know your guys opinions. '6' is the number of man, or imperfection. '7' being the number for perfection. So why is there 66 books in the bible, not something like 77 ?? Doesn't it make it seem that the bible is somewhat imperfect? '6' - man, '666' - beast, '66' - The bible?
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why are there 66 books in the bible?
- Thread starter flyboy_nz
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Not all Bibles have 66 books...
finalfrogo
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Not everything can correspond to symbols. Symbols are human creations, anyways.
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
flyboy_nz said:
Because the Reformers removed the Deuterocannonicals. Only Protestants use a 66 book Bible. All the Apostolic churches (Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Oriental Orthodox) have longer canons. The Eastern and Oriental orthodox canons are the same, with the exception of the Ethiopians who have a few additional books, and the Roman Catholic canon is organised slightly differently and has a few less books, but all of us use significantly more than 66.
James
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Me thinks you're reading way too much into the numbers here. I assume you're basing this on Genesis and man being created on the 6th day and God resting on the 7th? Well just to play on your terms and go by that story, after God created man, He pronounced the whole thing "good." Man only became "imperfect" because of the fall.flyboy_nz said:
lol, I wonder if the council members who sat around deciding what books would go in and what would be left out realized that people would be questioning the actual number of books centuries later.
commandment4
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lilithu said:
- [ Greetings and doxology ] John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Revelation 1:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 1:5
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
Revelation 1:4-6 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 1:11
which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."
Revelation 1:10-12 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 1:12
I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands,
Revelation 1:11-13 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 1:16
In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
Revelation 1:15-17 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 1:20
The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
Revelation 1:19-21 (in Context) Revelation 1 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 2:1
[ To the church in Ephesus ] "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands:
Revelation 2:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 2 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 3:1
[ To the Church in Sardis ] "To the angel of the church in Sardis write:These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.
Revelation 3:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 3 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 4:5
From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.
Revelation 4:4-6 (in Context) Revelation 4 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 5:1
[ The Scroll and the Lamb ] Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals.
Revelation 5:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 5:5
Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals."
Revelation 5:4-6 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 5:6
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.
Revelation 5:5-7 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 6:1
[ The Seals ] I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!"
Revelation 6:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 6 (Whole Chapter)
commandment4
Member
- Revelation 8:1
[ The Seventh Seal and the Golden Censer ] When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
Revelation 8:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 8:2
And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets.
Revelation 8:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 8:6
[ The Trumpets ] Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
Revelation 8:5-7 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 10:3
and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke.
Revelation 10:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 10 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 10:4
And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down."
Revelation 10:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 10 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 10:7
But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets."
Revelation 10:6-8 (in Context) Revelation 10 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 11:13
At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Revelation 11:12-14 (in Context) Revelation 11 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 11:15
[ The Seventh Trumpet ] The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever."
Revelation 11:14-16 (in Context) Revelation 11 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 12:3
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Revelation 12:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 12 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 13:2
[ The Beast out of the Sea ] And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Revelation 13:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 13 (Whole Chapter)
and those are just from revelation. there are lots and lots of other places where they use the number seven
I was going to agree with Lilithu; but your posts made me interested enough to look up the numerology table.
"7" Comes out as follows:-http://sun-angel.com/numerology/number_7.php
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"7" Comes out as follows:-http://sun-angel.com/numerology/number_7.php
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[/FONT]I know a good few members who would say "mere coincidence", but it seems as if coincidence is stretched here.......................
I'll keep an open mind. However, in reply to the OP, as others have pointed out, there are varying numbers of books, depending on which version of the Bible you read. I think in that particular aspect, that is just coincidence.
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
No*s said:
I'm sure you're aware of this, but this is more for the others here. Our Bible has 78 books although two of these (4 Maccabees and the Prayer of Manessah are usually found in an appendix). The Roman Catholic canon has (I believe) 74 books and the narrow Ethiopian canon (there's a wide canon with extra NT books whose size I'm not clear on) has 78 also, but the list is different from ours as they have three books we do not and have omitted three that we do have.
I agree that the numerological aspect of the OP seems to be reading rather too much into things that sem entirely coincidental.
James