I've had it! I need to know how I "speak against" the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. NOW.
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In my experience JW tend to be more orthodox and literal interpreters of scripture. The thing that diverged me is more liberal love an acceptance but many take that as straying from the law. What is the law supposed to be based on though? Condemnation? How much condemnation did christ do?
Others that are just as orthodox, or can be for the most part are muslims and catholics. I dont mind any of it but it gets to far when it gets to elitest type mindsets. Mormons can be pretty orthodox too but have a different approach especially since they feel everyone will be saved except for true evil.
Others that are just as orthodox, or can be for the most part are muslims and catholics. I dont mind any of it but it gets to far when it gets to elitest type mindsets. Mormons can be pretty orthodox too but have a different approach especially since they feel everyone will be saved except for true evil.
OK. Please define "speak against"
Here is what I have;
argue. No, I don't do that. I think they would not talk to me for all the tea in China (Jesus doesn't know about worn out cliches. Poor thing.)
assail. I don't know what this means.
attack. Even if i could get close enough to them to attack them, I wouldn't. I'm sure of it.
debate. They won't talk to me.
defy. I suppose someone might think I am defying them. CHECK
deny. I am not going door to door for them anymore so this one is true. CHECK
disagree. This one is true too. CHECK
dispute. I dispute their teachings. Yes. But them? No, I don't.
face. Haha
fight. Am I?
prevent. I think not
protest. OK. I have to look it up. I'll be right back. Yes, I do that. CHECK
resist. No...they have no power over me.
assault. No.
bar. No, I mean really.
battle. Oh please.
bombard. I sent only two letters.
check. Mate.
combat (see battle)
confront. No. Maybe I should.
contradict. That's it! CHECK
controvert. I don't know what that means either.
counter. I suppose I counter their people, but not them. Are they here?
counterattack. (see battle)
cross. There is not way for me or my accusers to know that. Is there?
disapprove. This is God's business, not my business.
encounter. Possible? I think not.
expose. That' it, isn't it? I have a bad troll thought so I I have to keep it. CHECK but only if anyone is listening.
gainsay. I love google. I think I'd have sex with it. (should I erase that?)
hinder. Unfortunately not.
neutralize. Snort!
reverse. Impossible.
taunt. But only if they are HERE. Are they?
withstand. I have no other choice.
call in question. I did call them. That is how I know they are Borg.
face down. There goes the sex again. Isn't it?
fly in the face of. Is this a cliche?
frown at. Not possible.
not contenance. What?
run counter to. No. I am sure I am sitting.
search out. What were we talking about?
take issue. Yes. CHECK
take on. Yes, but only those workers who do not have me on ignore.
turn the table. Haha
contradict, defy, deny, disagree, protest, take issue OK! That's it. The accusation is "speak against the govening body" but it is not the men I speak against, it is what they SAY that I speak against. OK?
Here is what I have;
argue. No, I don't do that. I think they would not talk to me for all the tea in China (Jesus doesn't know about worn out cliches. Poor thing.)
assail. I don't know what this means.
attack. Even if i could get close enough to them to attack them, I wouldn't. I'm sure of it.
debate. They won't talk to me.
defy. I suppose someone might think I am defying them. CHECK
deny. I am not going door to door for them anymore so this one is true. CHECK
disagree. This one is true too. CHECK
dispute. I dispute their teachings. Yes. But them? No, I don't.
face. Haha
fight. Am I?
prevent. I think not
protest. OK. I have to look it up. I'll be right back. Yes, I do that. CHECK
resist. No...they have no power over me.
assault. No.
bar. No, I mean really.
battle. Oh please.
bombard. I sent only two letters.
check. Mate.
combat (see battle)
confront. No. Maybe I should.
contradict. That's it! CHECK
controvert. I don't know what that means either.
counter. I suppose I counter their people, but not them. Are they here?
counterattack. (see battle)
cross. There is not way for me or my accusers to know that. Is there?
disapprove. This is God's business, not my business.
encounter. Possible? I think not.
expose. That' it, isn't it? I have a bad troll thought so I I have to keep it. CHECK but only if anyone is listening.
gainsay. I love google. I think I'd have sex with it. (should I erase that?)
hinder. Unfortunately not.
neutralize. Snort!
reverse. Impossible.
taunt. But only if they are HERE. Are they?
withstand. I have no other choice.
call in question. I did call them. That is how I know they are Borg.
face down. There goes the sex again. Isn't it?
fly in the face of. Is this a cliche?
frown at. Not possible.
not contenance. What?
run counter to. No. I am sure I am sitting.
search out. What were we talking about?
take issue. Yes. CHECK
take on. Yes, but only those workers who do not have me on ignore.
turn the table. Haha
contradict, defy, deny, disagree, protest, take issue OK! That's it. The accusation is "speak against the govening body" but it is not the men I speak against, it is what they SAY that I speak against. OK?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Savagewind....
Could you tell me why they upset you so?
If the JWs are doing or saying something that upsets you, why (for instance) are you not upset with 'The Essex Anglicans' or 'The Church of England' or 'The Roman Catholics'...? Why the JWs?
Please try and keep it simple for me....... I don't know what you know.
Could you tell me why they upset you so?
If the JWs are doing or saying something that upsets you, why (for instance) are you not upset with 'The Essex Anglicans' or 'The Church of England' or 'The Roman Catholics'...? Why the JWs?
Please try and keep it simple for me....... I don't know what you know.
s2a
Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
JayJayDee
Avid JW Bible Student
Savagewind....
Could you tell me why they upset you so?
If the JWs are doing or saying something that upsets you, why (for instance) are you not upset with 'The Essex Anglicans' or 'The Church of England' or 'The Roman Catholics'...? Why the JWs?
Please try and keep it simple for me....... I don't know what you know.
Unfortunately OB, we seem to be seeing someone who is desperate for the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses NOT to be who we say they are.
SW is free to believe whatever she likes. It just gets a bit old when she continually challenges the authority of the brothers who are assigned to "feed" us. She is not one of "us" because she likes to feed herself, so that is up to her.
We will obey Heb 13:17 and keep right on preaching the good news. :yes:
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
I agree.
The responsiblity placed on all christians is to preach the good news of the kingdom. The WT organisation is the only christian organisation on earth devoted to helping us fulfill that requirement in harmony with the Bible.
If people dont like the GB, then thats fine. But they should not let that interfere with their responsibility.... let them go and find another organisation who will support them in being a follower of Christ. And if they can't find another organisation then perhaps they need to take the view of the Apostle Peter who said... "Lord, to whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"
Let the naysayers go find their own path to Christ.... we have found one that fully supports us and keeps us spiritually alive. And we love them for their faithful adherence to Gods word and to Christs command.
(If I get things right)
When I first came to RF, I never thought I'd find people have difficulties with their own religions, but then I was shocked.
I'm sorry to know you do
My advise is to look at the bases, what the religion stands for in the first place, and don't bother much with the branches/side details. Those branches/side details, talk about complicated matters of life and could bring doubts to people, and since they are not the basics, they can be less concerned about.
God bless you ma'am
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Savagewind....
Could you tell me why they upset you so?
If the JWs are doing or saying something that upsets you, why (for instance) are you not upset with 'The Essex Anglicans' or 'The Church of England' or 'The Roman Catholics'...? Why the JWs?
Please try and keep it simple for me....... I don't know what you know.
It is only the Jehovah's Witnesses that are saying I am sinning what I am not sinning.
I am NOT speaking out against the governing body. I think I never have.
I DO NOT have an axe to grind.
I am NOT twisting scripture.
I am NOT an apostate of God and Christ.
I am not mentally deceased.
Actually I am busy doing what THEy said I SHOULD do, which is to speak out against unrighteousness.
Actually if you were paying attention
you would have noticed I am prtesting every churches' creed about many things.
We all get frustrated, I am right now lol
Reel it in.
LOL The last dream I had this morning was someone giving me his fish to kiss. It looked spiky but it didn't feel spiky. I worried that it was not getting air.
Of course they didn't answer the question except to say I am speaking out means I won't "be fed" by them.
Hebrews 5:13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
Hebrews 5:13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
But you are upset, and that bothers me...... ok?
...then you will be speaking out for all your life.... we are surrounded by unrighteousness, and unfairness, and injustice......
I don't think that you should beat yourself to pieces against it.... I think that you should accept that it exists and just do your best.
Don't you bight me now!
Let's say I have ADD, not being able to attend every one of your posts....Actually if you were paying attention
Now, please, write your Creed.
I will memorise it. You can challenge me in two years, twenty years, and I will remember it.
Savage..... write a Creed for me that I could remember.... please.
There is a difference between speaking out against a person or persons and speaking out against a theology. I am speaking out against theology. Is theology the govening body of Jehovah's Witnesses?
If you could see what I see you would be mighty surprised.
If you could see what I see you would be mighty surprised.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
We cannot always see what others can see.
I can't see what you can see. I know this because sometimes I have difficulty in understanding your posts. That's not because you are wrong, it's because I am daft.
I want to know where the theology is wrong.
I would like to see a Creed written by you.
I would remember it.
Brother! Upset bothers you which is cute! I have learned to not be bothered by it.
So far I have nothing better to do.
Thank you.
I do not beat myself up. I might laugh myself into pieces.
You are adorable!Don't you bight me now!
Hey! My every post? Every post IS about Jesus didn't say. I might have ADD too I think. Does it mean I AM mentally deceased? HAHA I mean diseased.
It's easy.
Love does not provoke.
Jesus said "I am going therefore disciple the nations..."
Jesus said "take care you do not mislead"
Do those look different to you with ADD?
1 Corinthians 13:5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Luke 21:8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
There are more, but these are the foundation that is shaky and EVERYONE is standing on.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Luke 21:8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
There are more, but these are the foundation that is shaky and EVERYONE is standing on.
It's easy.
Love does not provoke.
Jesus said "I am going therefore disciple the nations..."
Jesus said "take care you do not mislead"
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
... yes.... I asked my wife and she says that I'm definitely full of ADD, but not cute!
That needs sorting. Go on a Samaritans course , or whatever service/charity you have for contact with very sad folks, or work in a soup kitchen. The busier you are, the easier 'things' can look. :yes:
OK.... but sometimes your posts look as if your about to chuck chairs about.I do not beat myself up. I might laugh myself into pieces.
!
My wife says I'm more skanky than the dog. (the ultimate insult).
I have spent time around the mentally disabled, and they are very often very contented and happy. Are you contented and happy?
Savage..... it looks incomplete.
Jesus would want to have his message included in His Creed.
'Don't mislead' would be part, but not all of it.
Remember...... don't bite me!
....(back in an hour or two)