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Premarital sex and Christianity

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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Sleeppy said:
If the soap analogy is too much for adult brains to handle, skip it. I would think as adults, we should be quite fond of, and familiar with soap.. Soap shouldn't be quite that disgusting for you two.
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Soap isn't. It is the equating women with inanimate object like soap.

A female partner might have a past that is more sophisticated than a newly unwrapped bar of soap. But as a sentient human she can tell you about it.

A bar of soap can't.
And I didn't see anything in that post suggesting that male partners "sophistication" was similar.

Tom
 
Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
columbus said:
Soap isn't. It is the equating women with inanimate object like soap.

A female partner might have a past that is more sophisticated than a newly unwrapped bar of soap. But as a sentient human she can tell you about it.

A bar of soap can't.

Tom
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It doesn't matter what men and women are equated with.. You know the difference between inanimate objects and people. The thing with analogies is-- they're not able, or supposed to capture every single attribute during comparison. I could've compared women to birds, and you would've come up with some reason to complain.


And I didn't see anything in that post suggesting that male partners "sophistication" was similar.
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Now that you know men and women are included in the analogy, you should have no problem. You really should've never assumed it was only referring to women; there's no reason to.
 
Pegg

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Hay85 said:
well...there are some Christians (especially women) who claim that premarital sex is against Christian teachings. So says the Bible.

Well...as a Christian I believe that sex between two consenting adults is never a sin.
When two young people hopelessly fall in love with each other....the sin would be not making love. Because it would be the most romantic thing ever (like Romeo and Juliet)

By the way, waiting until the marriage is absolutely non-romantic.
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fornication refers to sexual activity among people who are unmarried... so if two unmarried people were to have relations, they would be committing fornication which will prevent them from having Gods favor.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I just want to repeat what I said earlier: If a person wants to wait until he or she is married to have sexual relations, there is nothing wrong with it. They don't have to "try it out" if they don't want to. It is a personal decision and we should all try to accept personal decisions especially those that hurt no one else and probably won't hurt the person who made the decision.
 
Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
CynthiaCypher said:
I haven't been a virgin since grade school. I must really be used up and a bad person.
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How early is grade school? -- Why are you expressing guilt according to someone else's opinion? Accept yourself, and there are countless others who will too.
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
Hay85 said:
Then why American parents prevent their teenage children from having sex?
The truth is that American teenagers are really beautiful, so they easily feel strongly attracted to each other, and they are tempted to have sex.
Maybe that's the reason why their parents try to stop them at any cost: because the chances they have to have sex are so many.

In Italy young teenagers are really ugly (because of hormones level changing) so the chances they have to have sex are poor. Because they feel disgusted by each other.
That's why Italian teenagers are the ones who have sex the least in Europe.
There are a lot of 25 year old women who are still virgins in Italy.
That's why their parents don't try to stop them: au contraire, in many cases they even push them to have sex because their chances are not so many. They don't want their children to get depressed
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In all my life, I have never heard of anything like this.
 
dawny0826

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Hay85 said:
well...there are some Christians (especially women) who claim that premarital sex is against Christian teachings. So says the Bible.

Well...as a Christian I believe that sex between two consenting adults is never a sin.
When two young people hopelessly fall in love with each other....the sin would be not making love. Because it would be the most romantic thing ever (like Romeo and Juliet)

By the way, waiting until the marriage is absolutely non-romantic.
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Though in the minority - there are people who still hold to old-fashioned courting in America. I admit that I find a great deal of romanticism in such relationships. I am speaking of the brand of courtship where daughters and sons aren't pressured to marry and are encouraged to get to know potential life-mates by building a foundation on Godly principles, common interests, respect and love prior to endulging in physical pleasure with one another.

I do believe that God would probably prefer the aforementioned design, particularly when a couple roots their relationship in God and his will for their lives first and foremost.

Ultimately, consenting adults should make their own choices according to their convictions.
 
underthesun

underthesun

Terrible with Titles
Hay85 said:
It doesn't bother me. As long as it's their decision, made with their free will, without being influenced by the Bible.

By they way, If I had a 25 years old daughter who is still a virgin, I would probably kill myself.
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Woah, woah, why? Could you please elaborate on that?
I can't see any reason to be upset by a daughter's choice to put off sexual relations until she feels ready -- whenever that time might be, after marriage, just with the right person, or whatever else. I'd be interested to hear what reasons you might have.​
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
underthesun said:
Woah, woah, why? Could you please elaborate on that?
I can't see any reason to be upset by a daughter's choice to put off sexual relations until she feels ready -- whenever that time might be, after marriage, just with the right person, or whatever else. I'd be interested to hear what reasons you might have.​
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Well, maybe because I have a gynocentric vision of life. And I think that female pleasure is more intense than the male one.
So I guess that's the reason why female virginity bothers me.
 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I think an intelligent designer doesn't hang a pecker on a guy and then says 'Don't use it until you get married.' An intelligent designer would just make it so it popped out after you were married.
 
Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Quatermass said:
I think an intelligent designer doesn't hang a pecker on a guy and then says 'Don't use it until you get married.' An intelligent designer would just make it so it popped out after you were married.
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Food and water doesn't pop up only when needed.. When you go for a walk, the ground doesn't pop up according to where you intend stepping.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Quatermass said:
I think an intelligent designer doesn't hang a pecker on a guy and then says 'Don't use it until you get married.' An intelligent designer would just make it so it popped out after you were married.
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Well, I can say what you mean in a more romantic way.
Let's say two beautiful people, as beautiful as Romeo and Juliet, fall in love with each other, and then after a week of kisses and cuddles, they feel the irresistible urge to make love.
What God would prevent them from doing it?
 
G

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
Hay85 said:
Let's say two beautiful people, as beautiful as Romeo and Juliet, fall in love with each other, and then after a week of kisses and cuddles, they feel the irresistible urge to make love.
What God would prevent them from doing it?
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This culture really needs to remake the distinction between love and infatuation. This sentimental view of love, which in actuality is simply an addiction to infatuation, is the cause of so many problems as people dive into relationships the moment a potential partner makes them feel fuzzy, only to realise as the infatuation wears off that they can't actually get along with their partner.

And so the exes start building up over the years, you become disillusioned and eventually you wake up to find warts on your genitals.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Tlaloc said:
This culture really needs to remake the distinction between love and infatuation. This sentimental view of love, which in actuality is simply an addiction to infatuation, is the cause of so many problems as people dive into relationships the moment a potential partner makes them feel fuzzy, only to realise as the infatuation wears off that they can't actually get along with their partner.

And so the exes start building up over the years, you become disillusioned and eventually you wake up to find warts on your genitals.
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You are practically talking about love as if it was a sex deal between two great friends.

No. Love is intrigue, Infatuation at first sight, torture, passion, mystery.
Love is Romantic Love.
Without Romance, love is based upon mere lust between two people who have common interests.
 
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