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Publicly funded sterilization

omnifarious

omnifarious

Acolyte of Revelation
The system doesn't rely on eugenics to meet its goal. It simply cuts off an energy which does not desire to perpetuate. No gene modification required.

About it being "sinful", I'm not exactly the type of person you would find kneeling at a pew.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Fireside_Hindu

Fireside_Hindu

Jai Lakshmi Maa
My issue with this is the the age range you've picked. 18-25 year olds? Talk about the most impulsive demographic. You're talking about people who will spend $500 on a crappy tattoo that they inevitable regret or get covered up later and you want them to make an important decision about whether they ever want kids at that age?

:camp:
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fireside_Hindu said:
My issue with this is the the age range you've picked. 18-25 year olds? Talk about the most impulsive demographic. You're talking about people who will spend $500 on a crappy tattoo that they inevitable regret or get covered up later and you want them to make an important decision about whether they ever want kids at that age?
:camp:
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This is one of the most troubling problems with the program.
 
omnifarious

omnifarious

Acolyte of Revelation
Fireside_Hindu said:
My issue with this is the the age range you've picked. 18-25 year olds? Talk about the most impulsive demographic. You're talking about people who will spend $500 on a crappy tattoo that they inevitable regret or get covered up later and you want them to make an important decision about whether they ever want kids at that age?

:camp:
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If you are old enough to be trained as an assassin and be sent off to a foreign country to kill, torture, raid foreigners then you are old enough to make this decision. Not to mention the power to elect our next leaders.

This is the age of fertility. This is the age at which most pregnancies happen, planned or unplanned. Wanted or unwanted. If you change your mind there is always adoption.

The fact that adults are still so immature at this age is evidence of decay. In other countries people are mentally mature at 18. Adults in the full sense of the word. People in these other countries actually have a relationship with their offsprings. The transference of culture and wisdom is actually a priority. If people want to continue riding this capitalistic horse, this plan is a great supplement

Seeds sowed in blighted soil yield sick crops.
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
omnifarious said:
Completely free, publicly funded sterilization. You must be 18 to 25 years of age to qualify. You get $500 check after the procedure is complete, and $50 less after each year over 18.

This would solve so many of today's problems.

Thoughts?
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Why $500? And more importantly, why only $500?
 
omnifarious

omnifarious

Acolyte of Revelation
Willamena said:
So in addition to being publically funded, applicants get a subsidy.

That will go over well. :D
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As I mentioned before, depending on how many applicants the system manages to pull in, the subsidy for future applicants can be entirely removed and a yearly applicant cap placed in. Also an income based graduated-subsidy can be implemented.
 
Aquitaine

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
If you are old enough to be trained as an assassin and be sent off to a foreign country to kill, torture, raid foreigners then you are old enough to make this decision. Not to mention the power to elect our next leaders.
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That's actually a very good point. :yes:
 
methylatedghosts

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
What if, later down the track, you decide you actually do want a child?

1) is it reversible?
2) if it is, do you have to return the $500 (with interest...)?
3) is $500 worth the inability to have a child 3 years later?

We're not talking about something like a tattoo here - life situations change, and attitudes towards procreating your own little spawn change over time. Sure, you'll get a few people raising hands and going for it, but I hardly think it's a good idea.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
What about incentivesed sterilization for those with genetic flaws?

People could receive a lump sum if they volunteered to be sterilized, on the condition that they had a genetic predisposition to cancers, alzheimers, mental retardation, autism, or any other inherited condition. These conditions universally hurt society, and these people could be helped by receiving payment. Volunteering voids and moral preconceptions.
 
methylatedghosts

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
serp777 said:
What about incentivesed sterilization for those with genetic flaws?

People could receive a lump sum if they volunteered to be sterilized, on the condition that they had a genetic predisposition to cancers, alzheimers, mental retardation, autism, or any other inherited condition. These conditions universally hurt society, and these people could be helped by receiving payment. Volunteering voids and moral preconceptions.
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That's really how you feel about those with autism, or downs syndrome? That they should never have been born...?
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Sound great, I never wanted children, I have always thought that we should look after those who don't have children, and not the other way around.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
methylatedghosts said:
That's really how you feel about those with autism, or downs syndrome? That they should never have been born...?
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Wow you're naive.

So if there is a cure for autism, you would also probably think that would mean we reject all people with autism. Lol so wrong.

If we can stop these conditions in the future and save families from these afflictions, wouldnt you want that?

If those people could be born with out their condition, dont you think they'd prefer that?
 
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