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Congratulations PM Designate Modi

Kalidas

Well-Known Member
He has already rewritten centuries-old caste equations in the heartland. This election turned into a Tsunami of support for one man at 4:00 PM on 24th April when Dalits proudly asserted their Hindu identity for the first time by voting enmasse for BJP.

How did he rewrite them? If I may ask. Did he weaken the caste system or just alter it?
 

Omkara

Member
Caste identities matter in Indian politics and will always do, just like Hispanic/Black identity matters in U.S. politics. Only imagine 6000 different caste groups and close to 2000 linguistic groups and you will begin to understand how complicated Indian politics is.

As for transfer of power, that happened close to seven decades ago when India adopted Universal Adult Suffarge in a country with only 7% literacy, before most western nations including the USA.

'Upper' castes constitute only 6-7% of India's population anyway.
 

chinu

chinu
MODI
Really the most energetic and active PM of India (specially after Victory) I have ever seen. :)

Now.. lets see what happens next.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I don't agree with all of his policies (he doesn't seem to have a positive opinion of the LGBT community), but of all the candidates he has the people of India, and Hindus as whole in his heart.
Indian laws for LGBT also are slated to be changed. Just give the new government some time. The new laws, however, may not be exactly like what we have in Western countries and will reflect our culture, which definitely is not as anti-LGBT as in Christian and Muslim countries. After all, eunuchs have always had their place in Indian society.
Things might be different. Obama has an insane amount of opposition from Congress. It's hard to ANYTHING done when the opposing party shuts down everything you try to do. Lets hope he does not have these issues.
Don't worry. It seems that the Western governments including US have sorted out their differences on Modiji and he is not likely to face any problems. It was different till the time he was only the chief minister of a state.
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
HAHAHA Opposition....it will take reasonable lenght of time to explain the scale and magnitude of this mandate.He can amend the Constitution itself within half a day if he wishes.

There is no officially designated opposition party because you need to win at least 10% of the seats in Parliament to gain that status.The BJP's increase in votes polled is more than the total votes it had polled last time.

A democratically elected Prime Minister from a lower caste taking charge for the first time with a mandate to make India a free-market economy.
1. To change the constitution, it will require 358 votes. NDA has only 337, i.e., 9 votes short. So it would need some help.
2. Your second point is correct. Congress needed 54 seats to be designated as the Main Opposition Party. It will have only 43 members in the new parliament.
3. This point is not correct. The first lower-caste Prime Minister of India was Mr. Deve Gowda. Modiji will be the second.

I had a topic going at http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...a-worlds-largest-democracy-begins-voting.html. I think it was posted in a wrong place.
 
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Omkara

Member
1) I am assuming jaya and Naveen's support which gives them 397.Plus assorted independents and smaller parties another 10-15
3) Vokkaligas were included as OBCs for political reasons.Are not actually a lower caste. Deve Gowda was PM for less than a year and became PM by accident rather than populat mandate.
 

Omkara

Member
1) I am assuming jaya and Naveen's support which gives them 397.Plus assorted independents and smaller parties another 10-15
3) Vokkaligas were included as OBCs for political reasons.Are not actually a lower caste. Deve Gowda was PM for less than a year and became PM by accident rather than populat mandate.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
As our friend above mentioned he went from low caste to here. He has seen the struggles of India from a personal and painful view. It appears that he has the heart to want to help.
Moreover, he left his wife (I do not know if I should term it as fortunate for India/unfortunate for his wife) to work for RSS and BJP, and maintained no contact with her. It is his worship for 50 years. (I hope Modi and his wife would stay together. I would like to see 'Jashodaben', our First Lady, in 7, Race Course Road, the Prime Minister's residence, in a sort of atonement). Furthermore, his extended family including his mother, and that of his wife are spending their time in small houses as lower middle class people. I think, in our gratitude, they deserve more than that.
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
OBC are always like that. Jats were not one, now they are. Gujars were not one, now they are. OBC is an instrument of division at the convenience of the government which rules.
 

Omkara

Member
Yes, but Modi's caste is a genuinely backward and numerically (and thus electorally) insignificant caste that was added on merit rather than for political reasons.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
As a Gujarati, I supported Modi and was not fond of Congress due to 1984 and current corruption.

Out of curiosity, what are the ideological differences between BJP and Congress? Are the tax rates lower under BJP? Less spending on social welfare? Privatization (BJP) vs public (Congress)??

Were people getting a free ride under Congress? Sponging off the state?

I don't fully understand Indian laws but I myself am a centre-right individual

P.S. What's the difference between RSS and Shiv Sena and why do Sikhs hate BJP too (I mean BJP is friends with Akali Dal but Sikhs still don't like BJP)
 

Omkara

Member
Too many complex questions in one tweet. BjP(And Modi) is Right Wing on economics, center-left on social policy.

Sikh-Hindu dynamics and political history are too long to go into here.Suffice to say Modi did well in Punjab too, though it was the only northern state he did not sweep.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Too many complex questions in one tweet. BjP(And Modi) is Right Wing on economics, center-left on social policy.

Sikh-Hindu dynamics and political history are too long to go into here.Suffice to say Modi did well in Punjab too, though it was the only northern state he did not sweep.

ok; is Congress left on both social policy and economics?
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Far loony left. Crypto communist in fact.

Lot of freeloaders under them I assume?

The Delhi mentality comes from Congress' lack of discipline on crime?

I'm not sure how India's government works i'm afraid. I know left wingism worked in China and now they're shifting to the centre but their government is authoritarian

Assume Congress is left economically and failed in being true left (equality)socially?
 

Omkara

Member
The Congress is history now.They were fighting an election after having delivered double digit inflation, sub-5% growth and large scake unemployment against a leader who delivered double digit GDP growth for straight twelve years in his state and has a Putin-like public persona. On topbof it the biggers couldnt keep their hands out of the cookie jar. Almost every minister in the outgoing government is facing criminal charges of embezzling billions of $$ on the side while they were screwing the economy.They had chance in hell of winning. Modi won more seats in one state than the Congress won all India and polled more votes than the entire electorate of USA, UK and Germany combined. HAHAHAHA
 
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