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Was Muhammad a good man?

What is your opinion on Muhammad?

  • He was a great man and those who insult him must be punished!

    Votes: 60 27.9%
  • He was a great man, but people are free to insult him

    Votes: 47 21.9%
  • He was not a good man, but we should respect him because I believe in respecting other religions

    Votes: 23 10.7%
  • He was a terrible man and we should condemn his awful actions!

    Votes: 85 39.5%

  • Total voters
    215

farouk

Active Member
I hope that will not be confused between Christianity and Judaism
In the Jewish prophets mistakes
In the book of Psalms of David says ---
You alone are the mistakes made ​​in front of you and evil ---
To the end of the psalm ---

Christ in the Christian does not have mis ---
Is the word of God In Islam, Mohammed and the Koran mistakes bless these mistakes

Mahasn ebn sawresho my dear brother.
Please read what i read very carefully before replying.If you have problem understanding what i write then let me know so i can re-explain.From what i been reading from your post its quite obvious that you looking at everthing from a very biased point of view.So here is truth for you to accomodiate but please read it carefully and take those blinkers off.

In 1949 an International Convention was held in Geneva and protection was granted to the victims of war. This convention prohibits violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture and taking of hostages of the defeated party. It enjoined that the wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for. Those who violate these provisions are treated as war criminals and eventually are brought to justice.
My question to you is whose law is this?
God or Man
Now lets go to your bible.
Please read ff chapters.
Numbers 31......1 Samuel 15
please read entire chapter to gain knowledge.
The following from the above chapters should be of interest to you.
Numbers 31
7.They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man.
9.The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder.
15Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them
16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people.
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
1 Samuel 15
3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
All the above was carried out under Gods instructions.
My question to you is which law do you prefer?
Gods or Man's law.
Next question was Moses(PBBUH) a bad person for carrying out Gods command?
Just for the record i don't have a problem with Gods instruction in the bible.
Note there are plenty of verses that i can give you from your bible but what is the point if you have not read your bible.

Now lets go to your prisoners ignorance.
In the battle of Badr the muslims captured 70 prisoners of war.Only 3 were put to death.
My question to you why did he excute 3 and what happened to the other 67?
Note if you cannot find a truthful answer to this simple question because of your ignorance then you should not point your finger towards the Messenger(PBBUH).

Now let me take you to the conquest of Mecca.
When the Muslims conquered Mecca all his enermies hid in their homes.
My question to you is what did he do to his enermies?
Did he kill them all or did he forgive them all.

Note if you have problem answering my simple questions because of ignorance then its not worth my while to continue.
After all knowlwdge is the cure for ignorance.
Peace
Farouk
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Thread is Mohammed a good man,
i am writing 14 behavior of Muhammad through his life and his actions,
The shortened speech ----
If you want to discuss those behaviors that Muhammad did it as a human being would be a welcome
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to - farouk
But you attempt to debate out on this subject
However, provided you view and compare
i Refer to the responses that you typed ----
And also I understand what you want to say well ---
You want to defend the behavior of Muhammad by comparing it with the prophets of the Old Testament prophets Old Testament they Jews and Hebrews --------
Mohammed does not belong to them ---Testament
Torah and especially the Jews ---
Please be aware
I am a Christian Bible written ----
And also the Torah in part, the spiritual law literary ----
Please to every Muslim to understand this very well ---
Jews admit mistakes prophets
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Muslim proud of the behavior of Muhammad ----
This is an important difference between the prophets of the Jews and of Mohammed, who does not belong to the Jews
My friend Farouk ---
Interpretation of the Torah and its relation to Christianity is also closely associated with ----
But the link is no formal law literary ----
Christianity on the lips of Jesus Christ is that it has completed the Torah ---Leave my friend Farouk Torah and prefer working comparison between the behavior of Jesus and the behavior of MuhammadThe reason is I am a Christian ----
Follow the teachings of Christ and reject any notion contrary to the Education -----
Because Jesus also rejected these actions and we we give the formal designation of the law ---
This talk and a special theme ---I hope that my answer is clear -----
And not to confuse the laws in the world, and Islamic law ----
All the world do not adhere to the legislation does not recognize any text God ----
Only recognize the positive law ---
The law passed in 1949 -
Breached the Islamic countries and if you want evidence I will give you the proof is clear ----
Christ was perfect --
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
[FONT=&quot] to---psychoslice wrote in post 2043--<[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I have seen a man get his foot and opposite hand cut of, it was sick to watch.>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]please read this text from quran ---
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[FONT=&quot]Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,[/FONT]
 

farouk

Active Member
Peace to all
Mahasn ebn sawresho my dear brother.
I have asked you 5 simple questions and you know what you just proved your ignorance by answering none.
Note i am trying very hard to understand your english.From what i am reading you say the Jewish Prophets made mistakes.All the Prophets convey their teachings to man from God and if Prophets teachings are mistakes then God teachings are all mistakes.Please read very carefully what you writing because you make absolute no sense.
Please go and study your bible before throwing stones at Islam.You have absolute no knowledge of your own books but you sit in your glass house throwing stones at others.
Now its time to show you what your bible confirms about Jesus(PBBUH).
Luke 19
27" But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me."
Revelation 2
22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[g] deeds. 23I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

The apocryphal Gospel of Jesus reports that Jesus murdered children his own age:
“…Another apocryphal work of interest is the Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ, which dates from no later than the second century and possibly from before. In this book Jesus is portrayed as a brilliant but eminently human child. All too human perhaps – for he is violent and unruly, prone to shocking displays of temper and a rather irresponsible exercise of his powers. Indeed, on one occasion he strikes dead another child who offends him. A similar fate is visited upon an autocratic mentor. Such incidents are undoubtedly spurious, but they attest to the way in which, at the time, Jesus had to be depicted if he were to attain divine status amongst his following. (Michael Baigent, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, p. 390)

Note brother i can write a book about it but what is the point.Jesus(PBBUH) was a great Prophet of God and he was divinely inspired and so was Prophet Muhammad(PBBUH).Every action of the Prophets was from the teachings of God.
Prophet Muhammad(PBBUH) teachings was the same as the other +-124,000 prophets.Note brother its time you study your own bible and your Prophets before attacking Islam unless offcourse you suffering from Islamophobia.
Peace and may God guide you.
Farouk
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
To everyone: I have been unable to post for quite a while. I will just pick up again at this point but if there were any posts where I left anyone hanging let me know.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to
farouk
the First -
I studied Islamic law ---
Secondly, my English is clear ----
Thirdly -
What are the five questions ----
I did not find any questions ----
Write your Questions ----Fourth ---
I understand religion is love ---
Any religion does not believe in love do not believe it ---I do not know what this talk about killing children ----
Do you want to accuse Christianity ----
You have to read well ---
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
[FONT=&quot]You want to challenge the Christian ----
When Christ was born, a Roman ruler Herod issued an ordered to killing of all the children born of Bethlehem - because the Jews told him that the Savior would be born of them ---Here, the angel appeared to Mary, Joseph preacher ---
He said his fiancée get up and take it and run ----
And actually Joseph took Mary to Egypt, as the Bible says ----
After that ended the rule of Herod returned the baby Jesus, Mary and Joseph into Galilee, and she was not Jewish and Arab ----Where is he ordered the killing of children in the Gospel ---
Why the charge ----
This is the story of the birth of the Gospel of Jesus ----You do not know the Koran also ----
Did you read the verse that says to< my Lord [/FONT][FONT=&quot]&#1604;&#1575;&#1578;&#1584;&#1585;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] of the unbelievers in the land [/FONT][FONT=&quot]&#1583;&#1610;&#1575;&#1585;&#1575;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] ---
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]&#1601;&#1575;&#1606; &#1578;&#1584;&#1585;&#1607;&#1605;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to [/FONT][FONT=&quot]&#1604;&#1575;&#1610;&#1604;&#1583;&#1608;&#1575;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] only [/FONT][FONT=&quot]&#1601;&#1575;&#1580;&#1585;&#1575;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] infidels ----
You know the verse ----
this Verse calling for the killing of children -----I wrote the words in Arabic, I do not know, because I literally translated---My friend Farouk ---
Provided you conduct 14 of the behavior of Muhammad ---
Could you brief response by - please ---
in Old Testament < al -torat > the prophets committed mistakes ----Ibrahim made &#8203;&#8203;a mis when he said that his sister Sarah ----
Moses mistakes ---
Moses violated God ---
The punishment ----
Moses did not enter the Promised Land ---
He died in Mount Horeb ---- Joshua son of Nun, who was the leader when he entered the chosen people of God Promised Land -[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Indeed, you do not know anything ---
About it ----
Moses was a prophet and a leader to the people of Israel --This is what he believes Jews ---
And wrote it in the Bible started before the Koran
3000 years between the Torah and the Koran[/FONT]
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Says the word of God ----
How to prove it is the word of God ----
Jews have said and written in the Torah that God said -
Leave the leadership of the people of Moses and Joshua son of Nun is the new leader ----
Torah written before the Koran ----
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
you must read ---
Koran was written by priest named waraka bin Nawfal and another named buhera - they helped Muhammad -- to write the qouran --
The Koran is not the word of God ---
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
i waiting you to answer mu questions -the 14 --
and i waiting your five questions--
at last ---
i am want any one searching in all qouran text ---
searching to word ---love -----
if you find this word in qoran --return back and tell to me that ---
thank you
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
you must read ---
Koran was written by priest named waraka bin Nawfal and another named buhera - they helped Muhammad -- to write the qouran --
The Koran is not the word of God ---

So people at that time were ignorant and didn't know this fact about Waraka Bin Nawfal and you are sure about it to be a fact nowadays.

Please what is your tangible evidence that Waraka wrote it,Did you see it in a dream.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
i waiting you to answer mu questions -the 14 --
and i waiting your five questions--
at last ---
i am want any one searching in all qouran text ---
searching to word ---love -----
if you find this word in qoran --return back and tell to me that ---
thank you

What is love ?
Would you please define love first ?
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
i waiting you to answer mu questions -the 14 --
and i waiting your five questions--
at last ---
i am want any one searching in all qouran text ---
searching to word ---love -----
if you find this word in qoran --return back and tell to me that ---
thank you

I think you are quite possibly a moron. Arabic has over 60 words for love, each in its own place. As for in the Quran. Well you're clearly ignorant of the ayaat and so forget about words such as mu'adda and hub for now lol. U fail dude
 

farouk

Active Member
to
farouk
the First -
I studied Islamic law ---
Secondly, my English is clear ----
Thirdly -
What are the five questions ----
I did not find any questions ----
Write your Questions ----Fourth ---
I understand religion is love ---
Any religion does not believe in love do not believe it ---I do not know what this talk about killing children ----
Do you want to accuse Christianity ----
You have to read well ---

Peace to the seekers of knowledge.
Mahasn ebn sawresho my brother please read what i write carefully.
As a Christian if you never heard of the "Apocryphal Gospel".Well i don't blame you if you never heard of it because "Apocryphal" is a Greek word and it means "to hide away".Looks like your seniors have brained washed you on all this nonsense about Islam and they hid the truth about Jesus(PBBUH) from you.Please get a hold of this book and study it because it good for your soul.
Here is a link that can get you started.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012248
What you must do is click on the above link and it will take you to watchtower online library.
Let me copy and paste what should interest you.
"The “Infancy Gospel of Thomas” concentrates on Jesus as a child—between 5 and 12 years of age—and credits him with performing a series of far-fetched miracles. (See John 2:11.) Jesus is presented as a naughty, irascible, vindictive child, who uses his miraculous powers to take revenge on teachers, neighbors, and other children, some of whom he blinds, cripples, or even kills."

My brother Mahasn as a Muslim i regard Isa Ibn Maryam (PBBUT) as one of the very great Prophets of his time.I respect him and all +-124,000 Prophets equally and if anyone tells me Prophets made mistakes then i tell them to have their brains examined.Some times water gets into their brains and they need a brain scan.

Finally my opinion on all this Apocryphal books,written by those who have no work to do, is nothing but a pack of lies.What is your opinion?
So far as your Monk is concerned here is some knowledge for you.
http://www.baylorisr.org/wp-content/uploads/bahkou_monk.pdf
Again click on the link and study.
Note this is just another pack of lies and they trying to catch fish.Looks like you took it hook line and sinker.
Peace and may the Almighty God guide you.
Farouk
 
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