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Isn't it time God did something to relieve human suffering?
- Thread starter retrorich
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BucephalusBB
ABACABB
Why? Why would he change the world allready while we are still so young? I mean, the bible only is about 2000 years old or so? I don't know. Very young in my eyes..
And if he would make the world a perfect place allready. what is there to do for us? He might as well call earth heaven then..:highfive:
And if he would make the world a perfect place allready. what is there to do for us? He might as well call earth heaven then..:highfive:
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
retrorich said:Right. The ultimate cop-out. He screwed up, so we suffer as a result.
No, we screwed up, and continue to do so, and suffer as a result.
James
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
retrorich said:
2000 years one an infinite lifetime? ->> nothing!
And when you were playing with lego when you were young, did they all lead the perfect life all the time?
Opethian
Active Member
Well since religion states god created us and the earth ( the environment that influences us ), god would be responsible for the imperfections of our body, and thus for the sins we commit, since thought processes and choices are controlled by our body. So god should have been able to predict what would happen, which is in contradiction with the fact we ourselves should be responsible for our sins.
CaptainXeroid
Following Christ
Since you don't believe God even exists, it's rather disingenuous to criticize Him for not acting as you think He should. As James said, God didn't screw up, mankind did.retrorich said:
I believe that God is doing something to relieve human suffering. He is working through the faithful who give and do what they can to help people every day. Their deeds aren't flashy or glamorous, and just because they don't make the 11 PM news doesn't mean that you should dismiss the good that God is doing.:162:
the appointed time is near,retrorich said:
The time that God has allowed for humans to experiment with self-government is about to end. In fulfillment of Bible prophecy, his Kingdom was established in the heavens in 1914 with Jesus Christ as its King. Shortly, it will crush and put an end to all human governments.Daniel 2:44
Jesus provided a foregleam of the blessings that the restoration of divine rule will bring to humanity.
He healed the sick, fed the hungry, and resurrected the dead.
Even the forces of nature obeyed his voice. (Matthew 11:5; Mark 4:37-39; Luke 9:11-16) Imagine what Jesus will accomplish when he uses the cleansing effect of his ransom sacrifice to benefit all obedient mankind! The Bible promises that by means of Christs rule, God "will wipe out every tear from [mankinds] eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore."Revelation 21:4
For here I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart. isaiah 65;17
(2 Peter 3:13) But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell. ...everything is happening inline with bible prophecy , suffering is soon on the way out for good
Karl R
Active Member
Talk about cop-outs, you don't believe in god. According to your beliefs, god doesn't exist, so obviously god can't relieve human suffering. Either people relieve human suffering, or nobody does.retrorich said:
So tell me, what did you do to relieve human suffering in the last week?
Since I brought up the subject, I'll start. My church gives half its open offering to a different charity every week. This past Sunday the money went to clean up a superfund site (toxic waste dump) in a ghetto a few miles from here. I dropped $50 into the offering plate, so $25 of my money went to relieve some human suffering. That's not a lot of money, and it certainly didn't take any personal effort on my part, so it's not something for me to brag about, but I did something.
Retrorich, Opethian, Dave*1987: put up or shut up. Tell me something you did in the last week to relieve human suffering.
And speaking of "we have to suffer", how much human suffering did you endure last week?
Opethian
Active Member
Since I don't believe in god, it's kind of hard for me to blame him for suffering in this world. I also didn't start this topic, all I did was post the fact that the concept of sin is pretty ridiculous, since god made us and our environment in the first place, so he should know everything we would do in our life in the first place. Of course, if you are ignorant enough to believe in "free will" and "souls" then I guess go right ahead.
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
Is it wrong to place yourself in another belief just to think about it?Karl R said:
I gave my friend the remote. He didn't want to get up..
Well, I do have a soar throat..
retrorich
SUPER NOT-A-MOD
As I clearly state in my profile, I am an atheist and, therefore, do not believe that God exists. In these forums, I speak of God in a hypothetical manner; I am not criticizing God, but rather the concept of God, which I consider to be false, and the belief in that concept, which I believe to be futile.CaptainXeroid said:
retrorich
SUPER NOT-A-MOD
I approach the subject of God in a hypothetical manner. See my reply to CaptainXeroidKarl R said:
What I have done is not the topic of this thread.
That is not relative to the topic of this thread.
Actually, I have been suffering quite a bit over the past year or so. But that is between me and God. :biglaugh: