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The Lord's Prayer

Scott1

Scott1

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I have not read this section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in a while... and was just blown away as I read it again this evening.

I posted it here in the hope that a few of my non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters may take a moment to read this wonderful teaching about the Lord's Prayer, "the most perfect of prayers" (St. Thomas Acquinas)

CLICK HERE:
SECTION TWO
THE LORD'S PRAYER
"OUR FATHER!"





Some "highlights":

The expression God the Father had never been revealed to anyone. When Moses himself asked God who he was, he heard another name. The Father's name has been revealed to us in the Son, for the name "Son" implies the new name "Father."

We can invoke God as "Father" because he is revealed to us by his Son become man and because his Spirit makes him known to us. The personal relation of the Son to the Father is something that man cannot conceive of nor the angelic powers even dimly see: and yet, the Spirit of the Son grants a participation in that very relation to us who believe that Jesus is the Christ and that we are born of God.

The baptized cannot pray to "our" Father without bringing before him all those for whom he gave his beloved Son. God's love has no bounds, neither should our prayer. Praying "our" Father opens to us the dimensions of his love revealed in Christ: praying with and for all who do not yet know him, so that Christ may "gather into one the children of God." God's care for all men and for the whole of creation has inspired all the great practitioners of prayer; it should extend our prayer to the full breadth of love whenever we dare to say "our" Father.

Peace in Christ,
Scott

p.s. Feel free to skim over the "Catholic stuff" :D ... I pray everyone enjoys it.
 
jeffrey

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
I like that, Scott, very nicely stated. Had to read to read it twice, but hey, it's late! :D
 
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onmybelief

Active Member
As it is said in Matthew 6: 7-8 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like all the others, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


This is the perfect prayer to embody all the things Christians should be: loving, forgiving and modest amongst other virtues.
 
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DTrent

Member
I thought this thread was going to take apart each part of the Lord's Prayer, verse by verse for a better understanding of it.
Guess not...
 
Buttons*

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
*Our Father - God
*Who art in heaven - lives in heaven
*Hallowed be thy name - You're name is sacred, let it remain so
*Thy kingdom come - we wait for the second comming
*Thy will be done - Try to follow the commandments and not sin, let us know your divine plan...
*On earth as it is in heaven - whatever is heavenly, lets all try to achieve it
*Give us this day our daily bread - The body of Christ, the Eucharist, and feel the Christ within us all
*And forgive us our trespasses - cause we sin, we need to be forgiven, have mercy
*As we forgive those who trespass against us - let us give grace to others as you've given to us, let us turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor and all that fun stuff
*And lead us not into temptation - try to protect us from getting into trouble, cause we know we're capable of it
*But deliver us from evil - save us from Satan, as you just did by having your son die for our sins...
*For thine is the kingdom - everything you created is, in fact, yours
*the power - omnipotent god of all
*and the glory - we owe you our personal glories and triumphs
*forever and ever - and always
*amen - seal the deal!
 
Scott1

Scott1

Well-Known Member
DTrent said:
I thought this thread was going to take apart each part of the Lord's Prayer, verse by verse for a better understanding of it.
Guess not...
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Actually, that is what the section in the Catechism does... it's a bit too large a study for a thread, so feel free to read the section and make some comments or share something you learned if you like.
 
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DTrent

Member
Buttons* said:
*Our Father - God
*Who art in heaven - lives in heaven

*Hallowed be thy name - You're name is sacred, let it remain so
- What IS that name?


*Thy kingdom come - we wait for the second comming
- What about 'the sign' given in Luke 21 and Matt.24?
Do you not feel that Christ is already present?

*Thy will be done - Try to follow the commandments and not sin, let us know your divine plan...

*On earth as it is in heaven - whatever is heavenly, lets all try to achieve it
- What IS his will for the earth?

*Give us this day our daily bread - The body of Christ, the Eucharist, and feel the Christ within us all
- What about thanking God in prayer for our literal food each time we eat a meal? I mean, since we are not cannibals we would not want to 'eat' the Christ, no?

*And forgive us our trespasses - cause we sin, we need to be forgiven, have mercy
*As we forgive those who trespass against us - let us give grace to others as you've given to us, let us turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor and all that fun stuff
*And lead us not into temptation - try to protect us from getting into trouble, cause we know we're capable of it
*But deliver us from evil - save us from Satan, as you just did by having your son die for our sins...

*For thine is the kingdom - everything you created is, in fact, yours
*the power - omnipotent god of all
*and the glory - we owe you our personal glories and triumphs
*forever and ever - and always
- Uh...I don't see this in the Bible. I believe it is a Catholic tradition of words?

*amen - seal the deal!
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Are there any other faiths who view this prayer differently?
 
Buttons*

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
you're silly. That was the explination I got as a child from teh Episcopal church in Sunday school. I'm not Christian, so i have no answers for you other than the ones that were given to me....
 
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may

Well-Known Member
Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

(Or, "be held sacred; be treated as holy) so it seems that the fathers name (Jehovah) is the name we should pray to, he is the God in heaven and Jesus put things in order , Gods name first

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(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.


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(Psalm 83:18) That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.​

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(Isaiah 42:8) "I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.​

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(Isaiah 54:5) "For your Grand Maker is your husbandly owner, Jehovah of armies being his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser. The God of the whole earth he will be called

Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. yes this prayer is talking about things which are important , gods will taking place in the heavens and then on the earth and it will come about through Gods kingdom

And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite... Daniel 2;44 ....the kingdom is now set up in the heavens ,and has been since 1914 . so his will has been done in the heavens , but Jesus has yet to get rid of the opposers on the earth, then , when the earth is back to a paradise state, his will , will have been done on the earth too

 
FFH

FFH

Veteran Member
DTrent said:
Are there any other faiths who view this prayer differently?
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This is the only portion of the Lord's prayer that needed to be revised from the original Greek text.

Matthew 6: 13 (Joseph Smith Inspired Version)
13- And suffer us not to be led into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

(This is the way the original Greek text read)


Matthew 6: 13 (King James Version)
13- And lead us not into temptaion, but deliver us from evil.

(This is a translation of an altered Greek text)
 
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may

Well-Known Member
Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth." (Matthew 6:10) This is a request that God carry out his purpose toward the earth,
 
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