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Fatwa issued against Mars travel

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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No. But that doesn't mean anything, I don't want to go to Mexico neither, doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't go.

Going to Mexico is incomparable to going to Mars.

It is one way ticket,even going to the best place in this world as to be fixed and not visiting other parts of the world seems stupid.

IMHO only stupids will be available for that mission.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Space travel is very intriguing. Imagine brewing your morning coffee and watch the sunrise from Mars.:cool:

Or it's two moons. I would love to go to Mars, I'm just not a pioneer like that, and I have family I don't want to leave or put in danger. It's one thing risking my own life, I'm not risking my kids'.
 

freethinker44

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Going to Mexico is incomparable to going to Mars.

It is one way ticket,even going to the best place in this world as to be fixed and not visiting other parts of the world seems stupid.

IMHO only stupids will be available for that mission.

So because you don't want to do something, anyone who does is stupid?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So because you don't want to do something, anyone who does is stupid?

It isn't something but it is a b********.

Do you want me to call someone jumping from the tenth floor as to be doing something.
Yes some do it as suiciders and i think they are stupids for doing such awful thing for themselves and for their families.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
It isn't something but it is a b********.

Do you want me to call someone jumping from the tenth floor as to be doing something.
Yes some do it as suiciders and i think they are stupids for doing such awful thing for themselves and for their families.

The first intercontinental flight was done by brave people who risked their lives.

We wouldn't have what we have or be where we are if we didn't have the risk taking pioneers.

Some people love the adventure more than to build a family.
 

egcroc

we're all stardust
drop it :
NOT ONLY me ,who called it Suicide mission ; the western people called it :


SUICIDE MISSION TO MARS ONE WAY NEVER TO RETURN - WILL YOU VOLUNTEER ?

[youtube]k8A5mBoHXzs[/youtube]
SUICIDE MISSION TO MARS ONE WAY NEVER TO RETURN - WILL YOU VOLUNTEER ? - YouTube

Over 1000 Volunteers For 'Suicide' Mission To Mars
Over 1000 Volunteers For 'Suicide' Mission To Mars - Slashdot


so they (the western) are stupid when they called it SUICIDE MISSION ?

so that's your source... the title of some amateur video with the word "suicide" and you already made it into "wastern sources"... typical muslim mentality... and you get upset when people call you stupid
 

egcroc

we're all stardust
The first intercontinental flight was done by brave people who risked their lives.

We wouldn't have what we have or be where we are if we didn't have the risk taking pioneers.

Some people love the adventure more than to build a family.

and what about the arctic expeditions?!! were they stupid too?!!

religion has already done enough damage to this world and held back scientific advance for a very long time... good thing science has eventually broken free of its grip, clerics can babble all they want, nobody will have to listen to them..
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
so they (the western) are stupid when they called it SUICIDE MISSION ?
Because it sells newspapers, and it weeds out those who would be scared to do it and who would want to go. What the people are saying is it will be like the person has died, because they will not be able to come back to Earth.

But it is clearly not suicide. I think, even with the article posted in the OP, that it would still be permitted.

The only time it would not be permitted, I think, is if there was to be nothing for them to live with. So, if one Muslim goes to Mars, and only has a limited amount of oxygen or food before he dies in a few days or weeks, and that is certain, then that is prohibited, but it is permitted to go to live there. It must just be that it is not going into something that is guaranteed to kill you, and soon.

So, I think there is no real contradiction between the fatwa and Muslims going to Mars.

I don't understand why some non-Muslims are having difficulty understanding it; I think it is very clear from the fatwa that space travel for Muslims is not "banned".
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The first intercontinental flight was done by brave people who risked their lives.

We wouldn't have what we have or be where we are if we didn't have the risk taking pioneers.

Some people love the adventure more than to build a family.

It is worth noting that the first serious attempt to fly was made by a muslim scientist called Abbas Ibn Firnas.

abbas-ibn-firnas-statue.jpg

Reference: Hang Gliders in the Sky - Extreme Sports - Ask Toy Tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-ZktmjIfE
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
and what about the arctic expeditions?!! were they stupid too?!!

religion has already done enough damage to this world and held back scientific advance for a very long time... good thing science has eventually broken free of its grip, clerics can babble all they want, nobody will have to listen to them..

That is marking your ignorance in history,pick up some historical books to enrich your knowledge and find out how muslims reshaped the world from its dark ages to what we have today,things improved gradually and not magically.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I know I would love to leave this planet if only get away from all the stupid apes who incorrectly have a word meaning "wise man" in their species name.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I dunno what's sillier (more silly?!?), these weird fatwas (if they were real in the first place), those who take it seriously, or those who use it as an excuse to generally attack Islam and all Muslims for being issued by a handful number of people!
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
It is worth noting that the first serious attempt to fly was made by a muslim scientist called Abbas Ibn Firnas.

"A single missive mentions Firnas employing wings for flight - composed seven centuries after the reputed undertaking by the Moroccan historian Ahmed Mohammed al-Maqqari (d. 1632)"

Ah yes 700 years after it "happened". Yes of course.


Going to Mexico is incomparable to going to Mars.

Thats true. You dont get cut to pieces on Mars. Or shot. Or beheaded with an axe, machete, saw...... and all these other genious ways the mexican cartels have found to seperate the head from the torso.

Its really a scientific field on its own.


That is marking your ignorance in history,pick up some historical books to enrich your knowledge and find out how muslims reshaped the world from its dark ages to what we have today,things improved gradually and not magically.

Well yeah until your caliphate broke down and your clerics took over. So its been a while.
 

egcroc

we're all stardust
That is marking your ignorance in history,pick up some historical books to enrich your knowledge and find out how muslims reshaped the world from its dark ages to what we have today,things improved gradually and not magically.

oh yes, the same old "islamic science" myth :rolleyes:... don't get me started because I won't stop...
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Yes, the Muslim world was certainly a center of science, art and philosophy. Especially since they preserved Greco-Roman knowledge. But that all fall apart centuries ago, in no small part due to the Mongols invading Baghdad, which was a world leader of culture, and completely wrecking it and slaughtering everyone. Then the Muslim world fell into an abyss of ignorance and religiosity that it never recovered from. Sad, really. After that, the torch of enlightenment was passed back to the West.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
so that's your source... the title of some amateur video with the word "suicide" and you already made it into "wastern sources"... typical muslim mentality... and you get upset when people call you stupid

So it's stupid western vidoe source , i choosed :D !!!!


some members here , always called the others opinions that they disagree "stupid" .

for me just arrogant and stupid person whom used this descent kind of speech.
 
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