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Who wants to live forever?

SkylarHunter

Active Member
I’ve heard a lot of people saying they wouldn't like to live forever because they would get bored.
Well, at the moment our life expectancy is around 75-80 years give or take and that’s what our perspective is based on. Even someone who gets to live 100 years can only do so much in a lifetime. You are born, grow up, spend a crazy amount of time getting an education and then you work very hard to pay your student loans/mortgage, raise your kids, etc. By the time you retire if you’re lucky you still have some energy left to enjoy what’s left of your life.
Now let’s imagine that instead of 75-80 years, you life expectancy would be 500 years. You could start exactly the same way as now, but by the time you finished paying your debt and raising a family you would still have 450 years or so ahead of you, meaning you could still do loads of new things. You could spend 50 years doing a job and then go back to school, learn something completely different and get another job for a few more years and then take 2 or 3 years off to go travelling and learn a couple of new languages and then go back home and go do something else, because you still have plenty of time ahead of you. Or you don’t even need to go back home. Move to a different country every 15 years. 500 years gives you a lot of possibilities.
Now let’s raise the bar to 5000 years. How much more could you do if you got to live that much time? The more years we can add the more different things you can do and learn. And as you learn more you realize your potential and you realize there is so much more you can achieve if you have time...
Finally, let’s remove the expiry date all together and never die. How much could you do if you never had to worry about dying? The possibilities are endless. So when someone asks me if I would like to live forever, my answer is “YES”, and I would never get bored!:D
That’s why my favorite scripture in the Bible is Revelation 21:4 - “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
 

Alceste

Vagabond
It doesn't matter whether I want to live forever. Life is a finite commodity. It will eventually end, and I'll go back to the exact same state I was in before I was born, which was neither traumatic nor pleasant despite dragging on for billions of years. The specific duration of a life is inconsequential. Species do their thing - birth, growth, maturity, death, in anything from a few minutes to thousands of years. A life is a life, and longer is not necessarily better.

As for boredom? I'm already bored and I'm only 39.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I do believe our consciousness is eternal, but for physical immortality, I support transhumanism. I'm all for living forever.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Finally, let’s remove the expiry date all together and never die. How much could you do if you never had to worry about dying? The possibilities are endless.

Only, the possibilities of what to do really aren't endless. However, no matter how long it takes you to get bored, once you do, you'll still have an eternity of boredom to look forward to.
 

SkylarHunter

Active Member
Only, the possibilities of what to do really aren't endless. However, no matter how long it takes you to get bored, once you do, you'll still have an eternity of boredom to look forward to.

Since I'm not immortal I can't tell if you're right. What I do know is that all my life I've had time management issues: I never have enough time to do everything I want (and I'm a poor time manager anyway). I'm hardly ever bored and when I start heading that way I find something else to do. ;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm up for living forever, provided that it's not a malicious ironic kind of living forever.
Bored?
I don't recall ever experiencing the condition....except for some persistent peevish posters.
The expected eventual heat death of the universe is a vexing problem though. It might be
a long time before a reboot, & waiting around until cats evolve into existence again.
 
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Since I'm not immortal I can't tell if you're right. What I do know is that all my life I've had time management issues: I never have enough time to do everything I want (and I'm a poor time manager anyway). I'm hardly ever bored and when I start heading that way I find something else to do. ;)

I think many people underestimate the difference between a really, really big number and infinity.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I’ve heard a lot of people saying they wouldn't like to live forever because they would get bored.
Well, at the moment our life expectancy is around 75-80 years give or take and that’s what our perspective is based on. Even someone who gets to live 100 years can only do so much in a lifetime. You are born, grow up, spend a crazy amount of time getting an education and then you work very hard to pay your student loans/mortgage, raise your kids, etc. By the time you retire if you’re lucky you still have some energy left to enjoy what’s left of your life.
Now let’s imagine that instead of 75-80 years, you life expectancy would be 500 years. You could start exactly the same way as now, but by the time you finished paying your debt and raising a family you would still have 450 years or so ahead of you, meaning you could still do loads of new things. You could spend 50 years doing a job and then go back to school, learn something completely different and get another job for a few more years and then take 2 or 3 years off to go travelling and learn a couple of new languages and then go back home and go do something else, because you still have plenty of time ahead of you. Or you don’t even need to go back home. Move to a different country every 15 years. 500 years gives you a lot of possibilities.
Now let’s raise the bar to 5000 years. How much more could you do if you got to live that much time? The more years we can add the more different things you can do and learn. And as you learn more you realize your potential and you realize there is so much more you can achieve if you have time...
Finally, let’s remove the expiry date all together and never die. How much could you do if you never had to worry about dying? The possibilities are endless. So when someone asks me if I would like to live forever, my answer is “YES”, and I would never get bored!:D
That’s why my favorite scripture in the Bible is Revelation 21:4 - “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”

Every thing you do has a cost, its not that I'll get bored its that I will eventually be to tired to pay the cost. Now if you could manage life forever with no restrictions and no costs, I could go a few more years.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I think "life after death" is a misnomer. There is continuing activity after death but life not so sure? Even if there were some soul that survived death I don't think that's considered life because being a soul parted from a body means the being died and became something non-living. I also consider the term "living dead" to be contradictory.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
@skylarhunter

I think you're underestimating 'forever'. Eventually you will have done everything an infinite number of times and still have infinity to go.

I thing God/Brahman is even smarter than what you are hoping for. He creates finite things that continuously change but our spirit is immortal. We will continue experiencing changing challenges until we all merge into God/Brahman which we were in the beginning. And then a new universe of finite things will form
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I'll take immortality with two caveats: That I can remain in my prime physical health and that I can choose suicide when I decide I am good and done.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'll take immortality with two caveats: That I can remain in my prime physical health and that I can choose suicide when I decide I am good and done.
That leaves the door open for unanticipated misfortune.
Take my approach....demand that there be no malicious irony.
This is broader ensurance of an enjoyable immortality.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I suspect we already effectively live forever.

Wonder in all actuality just how old every individual atom that makes up our form and being really is?

Not feeling so young perhaps? Ageless. ;0)
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
That leaves the door open for unanticipated misfortune.
Take my approach....demand that there be no malicious irony.
This is broader ensurance of an enjoyable immortality.

I considered this, but ultimately rejected as I think misfortune could be one of those things that keeps life exciting. I mean, would sky diving be as thrilling without the fear? Would you be as proud of your accomplishments if you could never fail?

So, while I don't want my body to naturally deteriorate due to old age or disease, I think it's fair that if I'm an idiot, I could still break my foot and need to get screws in the heel. And who knows? Maybe in a thousand years, there'd be the technology to replace all my bones with adamantium anyway!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I suspect we already effectively live forever.

Wonder in all actuality just how old every individual atom that makes up our form and being really is?

Not feeling so young perhaps? Ageless. ;0)
Having my atoms scattered about after I die ain't live'n.
I need them all together causing my brain to do what it does.
(It could do a better job, but I take what I can get.)
 
“And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”

These are all part of life. Without the former things, the latter could not exist.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I if could live 500 years, i think it's much more likely that i wouldn't be bored. If i can live 5000 years, i think it's more likely that i'd get bored at some point.

If i can live forever, i think it's almost a matter of certainty that i'll get bored eventually. So, it seems just a question of whether or not it's worth it.

Due to my situation now, and the way i perceive the question, it's seems extremely likely i'd think it's worth it. But who knows what i'd choose if i was really presented with the option.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Immortality would just become an excuse for eternal procrastination in my case.

That's a pretty interesting thought.

I can certainly see such effect as likely, but i do think i'd be too bored with that at one point or another to remain in such state for eternity.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Yes, definitely. Living forever is not just a dream... it will be a reality. :)
 
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