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Kingdom of God per Daniel 2, 7, & 8

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Where is history today with respect to Daniel 2, 7, & 8? I have laid out the history up to legs of iron. Please fill in the blanks for feet of iron and clay.

DANIEL 2:28 "HOWEVER, THERE IS A GOD IN HEAVEN WHO REVEALS MYSTERIES, AND HE HAS MADE KNOWN TO KING NEBUCHADNEZZAR WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE LATTER DAYS.... YOU, O KING, WERE LOOKING AND BEHOLD, THERE WAS A SINGLE GREAT STATUE; THAT STATUE, WHICH WAS LARGE AND OF EXTRAORDINARY SPLENDOR, WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU, AND ITS APPEARANCE WAS AWESOME. THE HEAD OF THAT STATUE WAS MADE OF FINE GOLD, ITS BREAST AND ITS ARMS OF SILVER, ITS BELLY AND ITS THIGHS OF BRONZE, ITS LEGS OF IRON, ITS FEET PARTLY OF IRON AND PARTLY OF CLAY. YOU CONTINUED LOOKING UNTIL A STONE WAS CUT OUT WITHOUT HANDS, AND IT STRUCK THE STATUE ON ITS FEET OF IRON AND CLAY, AND CRUSHED THEM. THEN THE IRON, THE CLAY, THE BRONZE, THE SILVER AND GOLD WERE CRUSHED ALL AT THE SAME TIME, AND BECAME LIKE CHAFF FROM THE SUMMER THRESHING FLOORS; AND THE WIND CARRIED THEM AWAY SO THAT NOT A TRACE OF THEM WAS FOUND. BUT THE STONE THAT STRUCK THE STATUE BECAME A GREAT MOUNTAIN AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH.... O KING, ..... YOU ARE THE HEAD OF GOLD. AND AFTER YOU THERE WILL ARISE ANOTHER KINGDOM INFERIOR TO YOU, THEN ANOTHER THIRD KINGDOM OF BRONZE, WHICH WILL RULE OVER ALL THE EARTH. THEN THERE WILL BE A FOURTH KINGDOM AS STRONG AS IRON; INASMUCH AS IRON CRUSHES AND SHATTERS ALL THINGS, SO, LIKE IRON THAT BREAKS IN PIECES, IT WILL CRUSH AND BREAK ALL THESE IN PIECES. AND IN THAT YOU SAW THE FEET AND TOES, PARTLY OF POTTER'S CLAY AND PARTLY OF IRON, IT WILL BE A DIVIDED KINGDOM; BUT IT WILL HAVE THE TOUGHNESS OF IRON, INASMUCH AS YOU SAW THE IRON MIXED WITH COMMON CLAY. AND AS THE TOES OF THE FEET WERE PARTLY OR IRON AND PARTLY OF POTTERY, SO SOME OF THE KINGDOM WILL BE STRONG AND PART OF IT WILL BE BRITTLE. AND IN THAT YOU SAW THE IRON MIXED WITH COMMON CLAY, THEY WILL COMBINE WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE SEED OF MEN; BUT THEY WILL NOT ADHERE TO ONE ANOTHER, EVEN AS IRON DOES NOT COMBINE WITH POTTERY. AND IN THE DAYS OF THOSE KINGS THE GOD OF HEAVEN WILL SET UP A KINGDOM WITH WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED, AND THAT KINGDOM WILL NOT BE LEFT FOR ANOTHER PEOPLE; IT WILL CRUSH AND PUT AN END TO ALL THESE KINGDOMS, BUT IT WILL ITSELF ENDURE FOREVER.

This dream parallels that of DANIEL 7:4-7 which is further clarified by DANIEL 8:2-8.

Head of gold (Babylonian Empire)
DANIEL 7:4 "AND FOUR GREAT BEAST CAME UP OUT OF THE SEA. THE FIRST LIKE A LION AND HAD EAGLES WINGS. THEN AS I LOOKED ITS WINGS WERE PLUCKED OFF, AND IT WAS LIFTED UP FROM THE GROUND AND MADE TO STAND ON TWO FEET LIKE A MAN; AND THE MIND OF A MAN WAS GIVEN TO IT." DANIEL 4:33 "IMMEDIATELY THE WORD CONCERNING NEBUCHADNEZZAR WAS FULFILLED; AND HE WAS DRIVEN AWAY FROM MANKIND AND BEGAN EATING GRASS LIKE CATTLE, AND HIS BODY WAS DRENCHED WITH DEW OF HEAVEN, UNTIL HIS HAIR HAD GROWN LIKE EAGLES' FEATHERS AND HIS NAILS LIKE BIRDS' CLAWS. BUT AT THE END OF THAT PERIOD I, NEBUCHADNEZZAR, RAISED MY EYES TOWARD HEAVEN, AND MY REASON RETURNED TO ME, AND I BLESSED THE MOST HIGH AND PRAISED AND HONORED HIM WHO LIVES FOREVER;.... DANIEL 2:28 NEBUCHADNEZZAR.. YOU ARE THE HEAD OF GOLD.

Breast of Silver (Persian Empire)
DANIEL 7:5 AND BEHOLD, ANOTHER BEAST, A SECOND ONE, LIKE A BEAR. IT WAS RAISED UP ON ONE SIDE; IT HAD THREE RIBS IN ITS MOUTH BETWEEN ITS TEETH; AND IT WAS TOLD, ARISE, DEVOUR MUCH FLESH." (Cyrus founded the Persian Empire. The three bones in his mouth were Croesus of Lydia, Nabonidus of Babylon, and Tomyrius of Scythian.)

Thighs of Bronze (Macedonian Empire)
DANIEL 7:6 "LIKE A LEOPARD, WITH FOUR WINGS OF A BIRD ON ITS BACK; AND THE BEAST HAD FOUR HEADS; AND DOMINION WAS GIVEN TO IT." (Alexander the Great with respective armies of 30,000 and 45,000 men defeated armies of 600,000 and l,000,000 men with an order of battle called a phalanx. 'With four wings of a bird on its back', might aptly describe the order of battle called a phalanx. The four generals of Alexander's army who became the governors of the provinces of the empire can be described as four heads. The generals later took kingship of their respective provinces following Alexander’s' death.) (one province included Jerusalem)

Legs of Iron (Roman Empire)
DANIEL 7:7 "AFTER THIS I KEPT LOOKING IN THE NIGHT VISIONS, AND BEHOLD, A FOURTH BEAST, DREADFUL AND TERRIFYING AND EXTREMELY STRONG, AND IT HAD LARGE TEETH (Roman Empire). IT DEVOURED AND CRUSHED, AND TRAMPLED DOWN THE REMAINDER WITH ITS FEET AND IT WAS DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE BEAST THAT WERE BEFORE IT, AND IT HAD TEN HORNS. WHILE I WAS CONTEMPLATING THE HORNS, BEHOLD, ANOTHER HORN, A LITTLE ONE, CAME UP AMONG THEM, AND THREE OF THE FIRST HORNS WERE PULLED OUT BY THE ROOTS BEFORE IT; AND BEHOLD, THIS HORN POSSESSED EYES LIKE THE EYES OF A MAN, AND A MOUTH UTTERING GREAT BOASTS... I KEPT LOOKING UNTIL THE BEAST WAS SLAIN.... ONE LIKE A SON OF MAN WAS COMING, AND HE CAME UP TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS AND WAS PRESENTED BEFORE HIM. AND TO HIM WAS GIVEN DOMINION, GLORY AND A KINGDOM.... AND HIS KINGDOM IS ONE WHICH WILL NOT BE DESTROYED (Kingdom of God)
 
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e.r.m.

Church of Christ
Agreed. Peter was given the keys to the kingdom which was opened on the day of Pentecost. This happened during the Roman empire.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
"THE IRON MIXED WITH COMMON CLAY, THEY WILL COMBINE WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE SEED OF MEN; BUT THEY WILL NOT ADHERE TO ONE ANOTHER, EVEN AS IRON DOES NOT COMBINE WITH POTTERY. AND IN THE DAYS OF THOSE KINGS THE GOD OF HEAVEN WILL SET UP A KINGDOM"

We are living in the days of the feet of iron and clay. This is the time of democracy when the 'seed of men' all grapple for power and do not 'adhere to one another' The governments are fragmented by different political groups which has a destabilising effect on them.

These are the 'last days' of this system and of worldly rulerships. Gods kingdom is coming for it is in the 'days of those kings that the God of heaven will set up a Kingdom'.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Agreed. Peter was given the keys to the kingdom which was opened on the day of Pentecost. This happened during the Roman empire.

Dear erm,
The Roman empire refers to the Legs of iron (Dan 2). Your church story of the Pentecost, which is based on an unsubstantiated one person, second party witness (Acts), does not meet Yeshua's standards of establishing a matter (Mt 18:16,Dt 19;10). That event, nevertheless, happened under the rule of Augustus Caesar. Rome was not crushed with the "rock" at that time. The feet of iron and clay had not come into existence. The coalition of iron and clay refers to the "end times", and the earthly kingdom of God isn't established until after the "Tribulation", and the "son of man comes n his glory, and.. he will separate the sheep from the goats,.." And the goats will be thrown into the "eternal fire". (Mt 25)
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
"THE IRON MIXED WITH COMMON CLAY, THEY WILL COMBINE WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE SEED OF MEN; BUT THEY WILL NOT ADHERE TO ONE ANOTHER, EVEN AS IRON DOES NOT COMBINE WITH POTTERY. AND IN THE DAYS OF THOSE KINGS THE GOD OF HEAVEN WILL SET UP A KINGDOM"

We are living in the days of the feet of iron and clay. This is the time of democracy when the 'seed of men' all grapple for power and do not 'adhere to one another' The governments are fragmented by different political groups which has a destabilising effect on them.

These are the 'last days' of this system and of worldly rulerships. Gods kingdom is coming for it is in the 'days of those kings that the God of heaven will set up a Kingdom'.

Dear Pegg,
We are indeed living in the "last days", but I was looking for a pin-pointed historical place in regards to the feet of iron and clay, both in regards to Daniel and Revelation. Who are the toes of the statue, a mixture of iron and clay? An where are we now. Example:

REVELATION 17:9 HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HAS WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITS, AND THEY ARE SEVEN KINGS; FIVE HAVE FALLEN, ONE IS, THE OTHER HAS NOT YET COME; AND WHEN HE COMES, HE MUST REMAIN A LITTLE WHILE. AND THE BEAST WHICH WAS AND IS NOT, IS HIMSELF ALSO AN EIGHTH, AND IS ONE OF THE SEVEN, AND HE GOES TO DESTRUCTION, AND THE TEN HORNS WHICH YOU SAW ARE TEN KINGS, WHO HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED A KINGDOM, BUT THEY RECEIVE AUTHORITY AS KINGS WITH THE BEAST FOR ONE HOUR.'

Five have fallen at the time of the writing of the book of REVELATIONS
1.Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (conquered Jerusalem)
2. Cyrus the Great of Persia (helped rebuild Jerusalem)
3. Alexander the Great of Macedonia (his general Antiochus III ruled over the area inclusive of Jerusalem)
4. Triumvirate (Caesar, Pompey, & Crassus) Pompey the Great of Rome (conquered Jerusalem)

5. Julius Caesar (will lay siege to Jerusalem on his return as the 8th beast)

One that is
6. Augustus Caesar (Octavius, nephew of Julius Caesar was the first) includes following emperors of Rome who were also called Augustus Caesar, for Augustus was a title meaning venerable (consecrated one), given to the Roman emperors by the Senate. The Augustus title is also linked to Augury, which is a Roman form of prophecy. Augustus Caesar was given the position of the Ponifex Maximus, which is high priest of the gods and calendar. The Greek translation for "anointed one" is Christ Augustus Caesar is a name adopted by the Roman emperors in honor of Caesar. The 10th Augustus Caesar, Titus, destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D. while he was a general under Vespasian)

Other has not come;
7. Constantine the Great King of Rome (overwhelmed Jerusalem with influx of Christians, and changed the Law and the Times. (Daniel 7:24-25)

One that was, is not, yet to come
8. Caesar (Czar, Kaiser), Hitler who assumed dictatorship from the Weimar Republic, similar to what Caesar did to Rome’s Republic, and instituted the 3rd Reich (Holy Roman Empire) There would be 10 kings, but only those affiliated with persecution of Judah (jews), the harlot of Rev 17:16, would be included in the last 10 horns. They would have to be similar in make up to a mix of iron and clay, so possibly a mix of former 5 Roman empire states with 5 Arab states.(Dan 2, 10 toes) An example being Brittan, Spain, France, Germany, Russian plus 5 Arab states, Edom (Egypt), Moab (Jordan ), Ammon (Syria), Philistines (Gaza), and Babylon (Iraq) (Ez 24-25) Brittan was thrown out of Israel in 1948, and Jordan, Egypt, Syria with Russian allies, were thrown partially out of Israel in 1967. The fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem have to yet be fully restored Joel 3:2.


When the final restoration of Judah and Jerusalem, which happens after "the awesome Day of the Lord", after the pouring of "My Spirit on all mankind", and the nations be gathered into judgment, which kingdoms will be represented by the 10 toes of iron and clay? (Joel 2:28 - Joel 3:1 -2)
 
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